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  • #31
    Re: State of the Art.

    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>we race with falcon III's<hr></blockquote>
    Good little motors. Designed to run on 12-volt with unlimited amps. But they lack torque because of their small size.
    For your 2D, a 36D would give you a LOT more torque to carry the weight... <img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif" />

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    • #32
      Re: State of the Art.

      Which 36D's would you recommend to replace the Carrera motor?

      The red Monogram X-220 cans (so-called 8 volt) is hot enough to beat the yellow and green 36D's, I have been told.

      My Auto Union Type D (on another thread in 1/24) has a nice chrome can with a white endbell, can drive, and red windings. What is it? Seems fast.

      Is a vintage 36D the best motor replacement for the Carrera 18 volt motor? The Carrera can runs about the same as the five GE toothbrush motors I bought for a buck apiece.

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      • #33
        Mabuchi FT36D

        There are two types:

        1/ Early motors, all end bell-side drive, with no brush heat sinks (throw them away).

        2/ Later motors with either EBD or can-side drive with brush heat sinks. Those are nearly all the same, with only two major variations of arm windings in their nearly 3-year life. Measure the resistance between poles and select the one with the lowest. Generally the earlier have brown wire, the later red wire.
        ALL are very reliable, very torquey and very inexpensive.

        Cox also produced the NSCAR 3500 of identical size as the FT36D, and they tend to be slightly better than the Mabuchis.

        Dokk Pea

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        • #34
          Re: Mabuchi FT36D

          the only 36ds i have are the old green cased with a white endbell and a few cox 's that are in my cox cars.

          just then i found a 26d enbell drive when i was rumaging through.....
          they have a similarity to the ferris motor (i mean buehler)
          they ,i can say are better than the 36 d.

          by the way those buehler motors (by coinidence?):lol
          are the motors that power miniature ferris wheels
          i can assure this as the ferris wheel /merry -go-round toy of my daughter has one in it.
          it was made in some european country..........
          i'll try to find it and post a photo.

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          • #35
            Re: Mabuchi FT36D

            OP wrote "those buehler motors (by coinidence?)
            are the motors that power miniature ferris wheels
            i can assure this as the ferris wheel /merry -go-round toy of my daughter has one in it.
            it was made in some european country.."

            Yes, I believe it, and I would not be surprised if they are the motors that adjust the rear view mirrors on my VW Passat (marked Audi on its engine components). Lots of Polish-made components on that car.

            The "other" 36D I have in my stash is a rewind by a high school boy back in 1966. No, not me. It has an epoxied arm and I am afraid to try it. The guy restores old sports cars for a living, now, so maybe it's OK.

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            • #36
              Re: Mabuchi FT36D-rewinding

              Hi

              In the day, rewinding one down to 28s with champion magnets it MIGHT live a couple races. Your ohm meter will read about .5 ohm on one.

              However, The winds on the stock motors varied so much that there were factory and home winds down to 30s available. Those will run pretty much forever.

              It was the endbell that melted. If it doesnt melt, keep it in bushings and brushes and it just runs.

              I keep boring people with pulling out mine and running them.

              Fate

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              • #37
                Mabuchi FT36D

                OP,
                There are still several hundreds of thousands of brand new FT36D motors around. You see them every day on E-Pay, but best is to buy them brand new from a retailer. REH and Parma have them in stock (Parma has the Cox TTX250 with brown wire, REH had the yellow K&B), all you do is order them. They generally sell for $9.95 or so. You don't need to rewind anything, they have plenty of torque and power. Indeed, the most powerful FT36D rewind available LOST me a race I had about won because of...too much torque. That is the Champion "707" of which you can <a href="http://www.electric-dreams.com/news-champion-story.htm" target="_new">read the story here</a>.

                These motors last forever and are extremely easy to maintain.
                The Cox "NASCAR" motor is also cheap and abundant, at about similar price. It is faster but not by much.

                The FT26 (mid-size between the FT16 and FT36) is very fast but utterly unreliable as its end bell WILL melt under duress. I do NOT recommend its use in a heavy car unless a Champion end bell is used on them. Champion end bells for FT26 motors are still available, we sell them.
                No sign of that Mercedes yet... did you send it by camel? <img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif" /> but I am still h-OP-ing... <img border=0 src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" />
                Regards,

                Philippe

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                • #38
                  Re: Mabuchi FT36D

                  i sent it yonks ago.witnessed by my mates during the merc cup.probable the roo put it in its pouch
                  same with victor ferguson.

                  by the way i still am waiting for my car i bought in epay . 2 1/2 months now.. person says he sent it ....
                  mail........ you can't blame the postie........

                  i want to use 26d s as they were the ones that we used in our tamiya cars in the 60's
                  if you can point me out to a place like the electric mototr warehouse , that would sell them for 1 or 2 dollars each.
                  i will buy lots of them and use it as another hand-out motor in our series.
                  we like fast cars

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                  • #39
                    Re: Mabuchi FT36D

                    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>i sent it yonks ago.witnessed by my mates during the merc cup.probable the roo put it in its pouch<hr></blockquote>

                    Did Victor Ferguson tell you that he received his car?

                    <blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>by the way i still am waiting for my car i bought in epay . 2 1/2 months now.. person says he sent it ....<hr></blockquote>

                    OP,
                    What does a purchase on eBay has to do with me or TSRF?
                    Regards,

                    Philippe

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                    • #40
                      Re: Mabuchi FT36D

                      no ,we had just a discussion about it over here as everyone is really interested in what you guys would say about our one body series.

                      so we all agreed to send you another car as soon as i get one from our distributor.

                      What does a purchase on eBay has to do with me or TSRF?
                      nothing at all. just the mail .it seems that it is taking forever to reach us.
                      if you recall i wrote something about this in another forum or here , that by the time the models arrived , our series has finished.

                      as i said i will surely check with our posties, whatever happened to the three parcels i sent.

                      cheers.
                      orangepicker

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                      • #41
                        Re: Mabuchi FT36D

                        Thanks OP for clearing that up. I must admit that since those wackos picked on the WTC, the mail worldwide has not been the same as it used to.
                        Regards,

                        Philippe

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