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  • Tudo
    started a poll How many Collectors-Racers-Dealers?

    How many Collectors-Racers-Dealers?

    40
    I SEE IT GROWING
    20.00%
    8
    I SEE IT DECLINING
    57.50%
    23
    I SEE IT STAGNATING
    17.50%
    7
    I JUST WANNA WATCH
    5.00%
    2
    In my other hobby, which is actually my profession of 30+ years, many of us believe there's many millions of collectors and about 8,000 full time dealers in the USA and many more around the world. Here's one fellows idea of how many exist on larry king live:


    Ian Russell of GreatCollections estimated there are 10 million coin collectors in the U.S. on Larry King Now...
    http://www.coinworld.com/news/larry-king-talks-coins-with-ian-russell-of-greatcollections-com.html


    The coin business in some ways has declined in recent years while in other areas has grown by leaps and bounds. I predict a solid future for the hobby due to more information available , more input from the US mint, more headline coins selling for millions of dollars each being reported in the mainstream press.


    Does anyone have an idea of the numbers of racers, collectors, dealers in the slot car business and more specifically, in the HO arena? In the USA, Europe, Asia?


    Where do you see the slot car hobby/profession in 5 years, 10 years, 20?

  • Black Oxxpurple
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    This is a great thread Tudo, I came back to the hobby in 11' and have scrounged to find others in my area. When I came back the BB was where to learn and ask question about what I can do to fix "XXX" issue. Then I wanted others to race with, so, I started the search for other local hobbyists, and meet a person less than an hour away. We became friends and went to a slot show 8 + hours away. WOW, what a trip. We still make this trip to the slot show when it is in the cards, two years ago 4 of us went and had a BLAST.

    NEHORA (Nebraska HO Racing Association), now have 8 solid racers at races (13 possible), will hold our 4th annual Memorial Day 200 (Where we race 200 laps, 50 per heat, and this race runs faux fuel cells. So, multiple pit stops per heat are needed.) We now can race on 3 different courses and have possibly more courses in the wings being worked on.

    It takes lots of work to get a group going and keep it going. Might be part of CHORC is not racing, no one stepped up to help keep things going and growing.

    I hope all our hobbyists keep up the hard work, it is worth it.


    Rob

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  • Tudo
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    I'm surprised there's no national shows that include slot cars, diecast, diorama etc under 1 big roof.

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  • Dave632
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    On Facebook HO car listings do not sell but they are all overpriced. On E bay if you price it right you will sell it. Don't think the younger generation is into slot cars much, I can only relate to my own grandkids, it is video games now...

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  • Ntxslotcars
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    I see nothing but growth. All this doom and gloom "we're all gonna die" is true, but has nothing to do with Slot cars. There is something about the HO slot car hobby that is different than any other slot car scale. The size is just right. If smaller was better, we would all be collecting micromachines slot cars. We all watch ebay, and the prices are surpassing 32nd scale, and people are still buying. I see 30 somethings getting into slot cars almost every week. It's something different they can do with their kids. Craigslist, offer up, 5 mile all have slot car listing from time to time, but they get bought almost as soon as they list. There are what, 7 HO custom track manufacturers building tracks as fast as they can? Where are all these tracks going? How are these guys staying in business? 3d printing just keeps getting better and cheaper. Decals, tire manufactuerers, new chassis, the list goes on. I don't see the industry declining at all. Sure, we are all going to die, and can't possibly see the world going on without us, but it will.

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  • Top Down
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  • Top Down
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    Life happens.

    I reckon 28 years is a fair whack anyway.

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  • Mazda
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    This is a real surprise that the Chesterfield club has closed.

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  • Top Down
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    Chesterfield HO Racing Club recently closed its doors after twenty-seven glorious years
    Umm - pedantic but ...28 glorious years. Jan' 1991 to Dec 2018

    I know if you deduct 1991 from 2018 it returns 27 - but if you count the full years its ... 28.
    Last edited by Top Down; 02-03-2019, 08:24 AM.

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  • woodcote
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    Another view of the UK & EU

    As I said on another thread, I was lucky to spend a morning last October at the Maryland Slot Car Show. It was concrete proof of something that I'd always thought - that the UK (and Europe) is a quirky backwater of the HO universe. Nothing really compares.


    We do have our European HO manufacturers (Bauer, Faller, Micro Scalextric, Minic etc), we do have numerous dealers, resin casters, there are clubs and one globally iconic HO event (Derby Le Mans) - but everything - apart from the tracks - is on a much smaller scale. HO articles appear in both the paper and ink UK slot car magazines - occasionally in Slot, pretty much in every issue of Slot Car Magazine. There is an HO Zone at the UK Slot Car Festival with a wide range of collectors and racers, including fabulous Matchbox Power Track, Minic and Tyco US-1 truck layouts last year.



    It's hard to say how many collectors we have in the UK - it's a more private pastime here, perhaps. I am coming across more and more Micro Scalextric collectors on social media. Recently a huge Aurora (1970s to 1980s) collection came up for sale after the owner died and two of his friends took it to various swap meets. They sold it piece by piece and I noticed that a lot of 1/32 hobbyists dabble in HO. Several 1/32 dealers are now bringing old Aurora sets and cars to swap meets - they'd only do that if they expect to sell it. GP Miniatures recently developed some of their flat-pack foam-board buildings in HO scale.


    The failure of AFX to successfully return to the UK and Europe was a real tragedy - after promising a potentially transformational shot-in-the-arm for the UK HO scene. Personally, I think it was always going to be a difficult challenge to compete at the prices they came in with, despite the high-quality product. The AFX Endurance Champions set was nearly three times the price of similar Carrera Go!!! and Micro Scalextric GT racing sets and the same price as the middle-of-the-range 1/32 Scalextric ARC One sets (twice the price of the basic 1/32 Scalextric sets). The specialist HO scene was never going to be strong enough to support the brand at that price point. And then the distributor went bust and that was it... Until recently, there were still sets that hadn't sold at less than half price. The cars sold for more than a 1/32 Scalextric car and four times the price of the individual packaged Micro Scaletric cars. The cars haven't been discounted, as far as I have seen. I guess they found their way back to the US market.



    As for clubs, we've never had that many. It's true that Chesterfield HO Racing Club recently closed its doors after twenty-seven glorious years. However, those CHORC members will still be important members of the UK and global HO communities for years to come. SCHORC stopped their regular racing at the end of 2017, but I enjoyed racing against most of them at the Derby HO Le Mans race a couple of months ago - they are still very much part of the HO slot car scene. Derby and Worthing are going strong and drawing in new faces to try HO. The weekend THORL events are still very competitive and racers travel significant distances (for the UK) to take part.



    I noticed a comment that attendances at Worthing HO Racing have dropped. Today we celebrate the ninth anniversary of out first event. So here are our average attendances per event for those nine years:


    2010 - 18.9
    2011 - 25.4
    2012 - 22.7
    2013 - 21.6
    2014 - 20.3
    2015 - 22.9
    2016 - 20.3
    2017 - 21.2
    2018 - 21.1



    We have gradually increased the number of events from eleven in 2010 to twenty-five last year, including nine 1/32 Scalextric digital races. Last year, we had two attendances of 30 racers.



    It is easy to see things as black or white, but it is always many shades of grey. The UK and EU HO scene is much smaller than in the US, but is similarly diverse and not always in plain sight on the forums, facebook, instagram or wherever. What I would say is that trans-Atlantic integration of the HO scene is happening much more through social media, with more collectors and home racers coming to the fore.

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  • Maddman
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    The January 14th issue of Autoweek Magazine featured Hot-Wheel cars and contained a ton of information from Mattel. As we know Mattel was the final resting place of the Tyco slot car line. Matell indicated that they turn out four million Hot Wheel cars each week. The article briefly discussed electric cars. The only one that the VP could remember was Sizzlers and a new slotless car they are bringing out called Augomoto that uses on board power. The five page article contained not one word about slot cars.


    The cover page was a riot as Matell donated 10,000 Hot-Wheel cars for the article. About 9000 were used in the cover photo. The cars were subsequently donated to charity.

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  • JimDouglasJr
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    Originally posted by el gecko View Post
    I'd also think maybe it's connected to the change in people's attitudes toward cars in general. People don't have a connection with their cars like they used to, and a big chunk of millennials aspire to be completely car-free.

    ...or cars that drive themselves.



    Sometimes trying to explain the simplest mechanical principle to some of these people...

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  • NicoRosberg.
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    Somebody is buying those tires though.

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  • el gecko
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    Well if it's down across all the boards, first I would guess video games have completely replaced physical hobbies for most people. Why would little Jimmy invest in a bunch of plastic and metal and other stuff when he can do everything (and so much more) from his computer or phone? Change paint? Click a button. Change wheels? Click a button. Want a whole new car? Go to on the online store and download it in seconds. Want to drive on a completely new track, which has been laser/GPS built in 3D and fully detailed just like the real thing? Click a button. Want to design a whole car completely from scratch and drive it on a real racetrack? It can all be done.

    I'd also think maybe it's connected to the change in people's attitudes toward cars in general. People don't have a connection with their cars like they used to, and a big chunk of millenials aspire to be completely car-free.

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  • RichD
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    If you look at the activity on the various slot BBs you would expect that the hobby is nearly dead. At least once a month I speak on the phone to a major maker of aftermarket tires and he tells me that he is having trouble keeping up with his orders. The question is if nobody is running/racing/collecting who is buying all of those tires? If they are silicone tires those last a very long time, so people are not just replacing worn out tires.
    Certainly it has become very difficult to recruit new people into the hobby, younger people are not as interested in racing in general, let alone slot racing. The latest members that I have seen were in the hobby years ago and are now getting back in once more.
    With respect to this BB certainly the log in issues have discouraged many people from posting anything, but other BBs have had much less action these past few years as well.
    For many people the local hobby shop is a thing of the past, thankfully there are many mail order companies. Many of those are e-commerce sites, but I don't mind phoning in or e-mailing my order as long as I don't have to jump through hoops to do that.
    When I write my tuning articles I always include clickable links to good suppliers that I have used myself, that saves the reader the trouble of researching for the appropriate supplier and hoping that he is reliable.

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