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    Trans Am Rules (revised 3/10/17) Stock chassis. As used to be run on Monday nights.

    Open to all manufacturers of vintage Trans-Am cars, from 1965 – 1977 (no magnet, 11 volts).
    Also open to vintage Trans-Am model kits, with scratch built chassis, or aftermarket chassis.

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    • Originally posted by kevin143 View Post
      Trans Am Rules (revised 3/10/17) Stock chassis. As used to be run on Monday nights.

      Open to all manufacturers of vintage Trans-Am cars, from 1965 – 1977 (no magnet, 11 volts).
      Also open to vintage Trans-Am model kits, with scratch built chassis, or aftermarket chassis.
      You're looking at the wrong rules. Those are Monday rules and no longer in effect. Scroll down a little farther and you'll find the current Friday rules for LMP, C, GT and Trans Am. The Trans Am rules are:

      Trans Am (3D printed chassis, & moveable pods.)
      Open to all manufacturers of vintage Trans Am cars, & muscle cars of that era (Corvette, Charger, Falcon, etc.), from 1960 – 1979. Also open to vintage Trans Am model kits, with scratch built, or after market, chassis. If you have a question about a certain car is allowed to run in this class just ask, and we will check to see if it qualifies. There is a huge list of cars that ran in the Trans Am series.
      1) Motors will be the Slot-It orange end bell 21.5k & 23k, Piranha 21.5k, Shark 20k & 22k and Thunderslot 21.5k (just like the Can Am class).
      2) Gearing is open.
      3) Any pod inline, sidewinder or anglewinder; offset can be from 0.0 to 1mm. (.015 inches gear to track clearance, .032 inches chassis, pod, body to track clearance).
      4) Stock Chassis: Can be the stock manufacturer’s chassis, with modifications allowed to the motor carrier to meet the gearing you choose to use. Front & rear valence panels may be cut off the chassis, & glued to the body.
      5) Scratch built chassis: May be made with plastic, or PC board, only; will be a minimum thickness of .032 inches; and may be inline, anglewinder, or sidewinder. The chassis MUST be a pan chassis. A cut out is allowed for a motor pod and front and rear pillow blocks are allowed. No relief cuts in the chassis pan, that will allow flex, are allowed. Any motor pod is allowed.
      6) “Hybrid” chassis: (like in the Can Am class), are allowed. (Example: Fly body & chassis, w/ Slot-It pod. OR Fly body, w/ Slot-It chassis & pod.) All chassis used to make “hybrids” will be made of plastic; NO metal hybrid chassis will be allowed. Aftermarket 3D chassis are allowed.
      7) Guides, & guide holder. See “General Rules #7”.
      8) No minimum weight. Weight tuning is allowed.
      9) Any rear wheel, & silicon tire, sold at Ace Hobby. See “General Rule #14”. Must not stick out beyond the rear fenders when viewed from above.
      10) Any front wheel, & tire, sold at Ace Hobby. See “General Rules #15”.
      11) The bodies must remain stock. Lowering of the body will not be allowed, and no modifications to the wheels arches. See “General Rules #5”.
      12) Stock interiors may be modified to fit; and “Tray” or “Vac” interiors will be allowed. See “general Rules #4”, about lexan, vacuum, or tray interiors.

      All classes: All other “General Rules” apply.

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      • Steve's Comment on Trans-Am series

        For last week while doing Tech for the Trans-Am series I was not previously informed of the change of the Rules for the inclusion of additional years of cars to be included to the original Tans-Am series of years 1966 through 1972. The series now includes cars that raced in the series through 1979. most of the entrants that raced in Trans-Am from 1972 through 1979 raced using mainly Comaro's and Corvettes, some Modified Chevy Monza's, a very few Mustangs were raced. Other cars included Porsche 934's, & 935's and other Group 5 cars including BMW M1's in 1979. so therefore Someone could race a number Racer-Sideways cars in the series. (A lot of Corvettes had their hard top roofs removed and raced with an exposed "Full" roll cage. and would include the "Greenwood" Corvette. While it was raced by a racer last week, I still feel that a "991" Version of the "911" Porsche should not be raced. since there are acceptable Porsche 935 cars made by Racer-Sideways. I will let that one 911 race but would prefer that racers would abide to the true spirit of the inclusion of the 1966 through 1979 Trans-Am series.

        Steve "SABarnes"

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        • Originally posted by Joefab View Post
          Hello all
          Last Friday we tried a little experiment, we had a trans am race ( believe this was a first for Friday's).
          Using cars that I had built with a few different arrangements i.e. Motors and gears. All had the new 3D printed chassis. For the most part the cars were very even and everyone seemed to have a blast! They had so much fun that most if not all have ordered their own chassis, I believe there were like 17 chassis ordered. Ron will be getting parts to complement all the new builds as soon as he can so the guys will have many options for there builds.
          The general consensus was that we will start to run this class in place of lmp ( or rotate even /odd days) since we run lmp as the 3rd race on Mondays. As most know we do not always run a 3rd race on fridays this seems like a great way to spice it up a little. It worked when we added lmp as the 3rd race on Mondays guys hung around for the last race. The rules are very close to the Monday night rules for trans am with a few minor changes from the input of the drivers. Below is the outline of the rules and some changes may be added or even removed. Any and all questions or concerns will be addressed. If I have missed something it's because I'm posting this from my phone (not easy) please let me know so I can correct it.





          No magnets


          Open to all manufacturers of vintage Trans-Am cars and muscle cars of that era (corvettes, chargers, falcon ect…), from 1960 – 1979. Also open to vintage Trans-Am model kits, with scratch built chassis or after market chassis. If you have a question about a certain car and if it's allowed to run in this class just ask and we will check to see if it qualifies. There is a huge list of cars that ran in the trans am series.

          1) Motors will be the Slot-It orange end bell 21.5k, Piranha, 21.500, shark 20k & 22k and thunderslot 21.5k (just like the can am class)

          2) Gearing will be open. Any pod inline, sidewinder or anglewinder, offset can be from 0.0 to 1mm. (.015 inches gear to track clearance, .032 inches chassis, pod, body to track clearance).

          3) Chassis: Can be the stock manufacturer’s chassis, with modifications allowed to the motor carrier to meet the gearing you choose to use.
          The chassis may have the guide holder modified or replaced with a brass, or other material to allow the use of the Slot-it universal guide, or equivalent. The use of “B-Nova” guide adaptors is permitted.
          The edges of the chassis may be sanded enough to allow for body “float”.
          No other modifications are allowed to the stock chassis.

          Scratch built chassis: May be made with Plastic, or PC board, only.
          All scratch built chassis will be a minimum thickness of .032 inches; and may be
          inline, anglewinder, or sidewinder. The chassis MUST be a pan chassis. A cut out is allowed for a motor pod and front and rear pillow blocks are allowed. No relief cuts in the chassis pan, that will allow flex, are allowed. Any motor pod is allowed.
          Slot-It “hybrid” chassis: like in the Can Am class, are allowed. (Example: Fly body & chassis, w/ Slot-It pod. OR Fly body, w/ Slot-It chassis & pod.). All aftermarket chassis used to make “hybrids” will be made of plastic, NO metal hybrid chassis will be allowed.

          4) All cars may have weigh for tuning. Weight may only be added to the top of the chassis. No weight under the chassis will be allowed. Weight must be lead, or similar material.

          5) All cars must use (silicon) Super Tires in the rear. Wheel size is open (sold at ace) and must not stick out beyond the rear fenders when viewed from above.

          6) Front wheels may be stock, or aftermarket, sold at Ace Hobby. Front tires may be stock, or any tire sold at Ace Hobby. Solid axles only. No hollow axles. No independently rotating front axles, or wheels.
          No painted coating on the wheels or sponge tires.

          7) The bodies must remain stock. Lowering of the body will not be allowed, and no modifications to the wheels arches will be allowed. Bodies should have racing numbers (min of 3), repaints and sponsor decals are welcome.

          8) Stock interiors may be modified to fit and “Tray” or “Vac” interiors will be allowed. Ace has some vac interiors. The vac interiors Must be painted ( multi colors would b nice) You can make your own if you want, out of sheet plastic. (No paper interiors are allowed.) The interior must have the driver’s head, shoulders, arms, steering wheel, and a dash board, minimum. All interiors must cover the whole inside of the body so that none of the chassis may be seen when viewed from the top.

          9) All other “general rules” apply.


          Happy building gentleman

          Joe fab

          The rules have never changed since I posted them


          Joe

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          • What we have here is a failure to reason together along with a certain confusion caused by two existing sets of published rules for "Trans Am" racing at Ace.

            And while we're on this topic, let it be known that the Ford Falcon XC currently produced by Scalextric is an Australian model that bears no resemblance to the Falcons that actually raced in the Trans Am and, so far as I can determine, never competed anywhere on this hemisphere. Just sayin'

            Pete (who owns the questionable 911)

            P.S.: My apologies for starting this nonsense.
            Last edited by MacMoose; 08-18-2018, 08:36 PM.

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            • Trans Am class (Friday nights)

              Yes, there are two sets of Trans Am rules, and it can be confusing.
              The (older) set of rules is for the Monday night, stock chassis, NON-moveable motor pod, spec. gears; which is no longer raced at Ace Hobby.
              The newer set of rules is for the current Friday night Trans Am class, stock or 3D printed chassis, moveable motor pod, open gearing; which is now being raced at Ace.

              My internet research found that in the real life Trans Am class, Porsche 911’s were raced from 1967 – 69, and again from 1973 – 79.

              Those vintage 911’s may, or may not, have bodies with similar dimensions to the 911’s currently available.

              Ron was consulted, and in the interest of keeping Ace the “happy hobby shop”, it was decided that provisionally, the driver’s 911 “in question” (ha!) may continue to race in the Friday night Trans Am class.

              On another note:

              The spirit of the Trans Am Class at Ace, is to race primarily good old “American iron”.
              The 1960’s & 1970’s American muscle car sedans that were the core of the Trans Am class. Camaro, Javelin, Barracuda, Challenger, Mustang, etc.. I know I have forgotten other examples.

              Real life Trans Am racing let a multitude of manufacturers / cars race; many times in order to “fill out the field” with more entrants, etc.. For example “Group 5” cars were allowed to run in Trans Am for a time. They were their own separate class, and raced in their own series.

              Ron & I have discussed the “Group 5” cars, at Ace.
              Group 5 cars will NOT be allowed in the Ace Trans Am class.
              They are already included in the GTA class, and can race in that class.

              Have FUN racing the Trans Am’s, and all other classes, at Ace Hobby!

              Tom

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              • Guy's I strongly also disagree with allowing the racer sideways 911 in our Friday night trans am class. For one thing the racer sideways cars are better built with closer tolerances . If the 911 was a Scalertic or a fly with a 3D chassis or even a scratch built I would have no problem letting it run.
                If I were to build the racer sideways 911 or even some of the other better builders it would dominate the field and that’s not what we are going to do!!
                I will be at ace today around 4:30 and we will have a drivers meeting before we race to get more input about this subject from the Friday night racers!!

                Joe
                Last edited by Joefab; 08-24-2018, 06:37 AM.

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                • Originally posted by T man View Post
                  it was decided that provisionally, the driver’s 911 “in question” (ha!) may continue to race in the Friday night Trans Am class.
                  Provisionally?

                  Let's just forget the whole thing, OK?

                  Smile!

                  Pete

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                  • Monday No-Mag, 8/27/2018

                    Mr. & Mrs. America and all the ships upon the seas!
                    Monday night no-mag racing has resumed at Ace Hobby!
                    Oy!


                    Five intrepid racers braved the elements to contest the evening’s events. F-Ron , Nerf King Al , K-9 Chris , Vacation Sal , and Porsche Pete . RD Tom was at the controls. Steve, Troy, Alex, Max and Joe were absent. Neither Gill nor Brian arrived to kibbitz. It was a quiet evening with frequent on-track contact and many laughs.


                    Race #1: Formula 1 – in which F-Ron wins without a single fast lap
                    1. F-Ron, 74.20, 9.555
                    2. Chris, 74.05, 9.509
                    3. Pete, 73.70, 9.450
                    4. Al, 70.15, 9.935
                    5. Sal, 65.70, 10.643

                    Fast Laps
                    Pete, Y: 9.450
                    Chris, W: 9.509, B: 9.533, R: 9.628

                    Race #2: Daytona Prototype – in which Al is offered a Scalextric GT for the race but declines, respectfully

                    1. Al, 74.35, 9.564
                    2. Chris, 74.15, 9.474
                    3. F-Ron, 72.05, 9.773
                    4. Pete, 71.30, 9.567
                    5. Sal, 65.10, 10.674

                    Fast Laps
                    Chris, Y: 9.504, W: 9.512, R: 9.474, Pete, B: 9.567

                    Race #3: GT-1/2/A – in which only one legal entry is received per class

                    GT-1
                    1. Sal, 70.35, 9.534
                    Fast Laps: Sal, Y: 9.876, W: 9.875, B: 9.534, R: 9.954

                    GT-A
                    1. F-Ron, 74.55, 9.360
                    2. Pete (Fun-Run) 73.50, 9.488
                    Fast Laps: F-Ron, Y: 9.360, W: 9.505, B: 9.506, R: 9.738

                    GT-2
                    1. Al, 75.00, 9.399
                    2. Chris (Fun-Run) 74.35, 9.408
                    Fast Laps: Al, Y: 9.399, W: 9.417, B: 9.489, R: 9.534

                    Race #4: LMP
                    1. Al, 79.30, 8.903
                    2. Chris, 79.10, 8.882
                    3. F-Ron, 78.90, 8.936
                    4. Pete, 77.90, 8.865
                    5. Sal, 72.35, 9.497

                    Fast Laps
                    Al, Y: 8.903
                    Pete, W: 8.865
                    Chris, B: 8.882
                    F-Ron, R: 8.973

                    Thanks to Ron, as usual, for the track, time, and air conditioning.
                    To Tom for running the events.

                    No racing next Monday (Labor Day). Racing to resume on Sept. 10 with Can Am, F1, C2, and LMP.

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                    • Motors, FWIW

                      A little research and some basic arithmetic.

                      The motors presently legal in Trans Am, Group C/C2, etc. due to the lengthy hiatus in Slot.it's motor supply:

                      Shark 22: 9.4 watts
                      Mach 21: 9.4 watts
                      V12/4 23: 9.8 watts
                      Piranha: 8.9 watts


                      The GTA-legal Slot.it Flat 6 produces 10.3 watts

                      Potential alternatives (hey... ya never know)?

                      NSR Baby King 17: 10.4 watts
                      Racer Baby Raptor: 10.4 watts

                      Yes... lower rpm ratings, but 22.5% more torque (245 v. 200 g/cm)

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                      • http://slotcarillustrated.com/portal...vB_Editor_001#

                        The Sideways "Baby Raptor"

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                        • Friday Night Racing at Ace Hobby August 24, 2018

                          Friday Night No-Magnet Racing at Yellow Dog Raceway
                          August 24, 2018 – Ace Hobby, Plastic Models, Slot Cars, and Trains.
                          Yes, we did have food. However, Troy made sausage sandwiches.
                          Thanks Troy they certainly were good.

                          We began with 10 racers. Then we had 11. But we ended the night with 9.

                          Now for the results:

                          Trans-Am Class Cars:
                          (Position, Driver, Laps, Best Times)

                          1st Troy – 74.50 – 9.300
                          2nd Kevin – 73.35 – 9.394
                          3rd Joe – 72.95 – 9.340
                          4th F-Ron – 71.00 – 9.599
                          5th Pete – 69.10 – 9.812
                          6th Brian – 68.35 – 9.755
                          7th Steve – 65.80 – 10.341
                          8th Art – 64.90 – 10.616
                          9th Max – 64.75 – 10.621
                          10th Alex – DNF

                          Trans-Am Class Fastest Laps:

                          Yellow – Troy – 9.300 Seconds
                          White – Troy - 9.307
                          Blue – Joe - 9.440
                          Red – Joe - 9.486


                          Group C-Class Cars:
                          (Position, Driver, Laps, Best Times)

                          1st Troy – 78.45 – 8.936
                          2nd Alex – 78.10 – 8.902
                          3rd Ron-O – 77.55 – 9.026
                          4th Joe – 76.95 – 9.154
                          5th Kevin – 76.80 – 9.127
                          6th Pete – 74.55 – 9.276
                          7th Bvacc – 71.98 – 9.482
                          8th Steve – 70.70 – 9.874
                          9th Art – 70.35 – 9.986
                          10th Max – 67.35 – 10.127
                          11th Tvacc – 66.00 – 9.742

                          Group C-Class Cars Fastest Laps:

                          Yellow – Alex – 8.902 Seconds
                          White – F-Ron – 9.026
                          Blue – Alex – 8.998
                          Red – Alex – 9.152 ) Tie
                          Red – Troy – 9.152 ) Tie


                          GT – Class Cars:
                          (Position, Driver, Laps, Best Times)

                          1st Troy – 80.05 – 8.807
                          2nd Ron-O – 77.65 – 8.929
                          3rd Bvacc – 76.10 – 8.841
                          4th Pete – 74.35 – 9.225
                          5th Steve – 73.40 – 9.399
                          6th Art – 71.00 – 9.623 – Fun Run
                          7th Tvacc – 70.00 – 9.175 – Fun Run
                          8th Max – 69.40 – 9.608
                          9th Joe- DNF

                          GT – Class Cars Fastest Laps All By Troy:

                          Yellow – 8.807
                          White – 8.835
                          Blue – 8.938
                          Red – 9.033

                          Thanks to Ron for the track and time.
                          That's it for Friday Night Racing.

                          Thanks for coming and see you Monday and next Friday.

                          Max out!!!

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                          • OK, youse guys... a little research (again) shows the following Monday night at Ace GT entries (no fun runs were counted for the last 12 months as reported here on SCI:

                            GT-1: 35 entries
                            GT-A: 42 entries
                            GT-2: 4 entries

                            So I have to ask... what's GT-2 even on the program for? Other classes with no real participation have been dropped, so why not reboot GT as a 2-division class comprised of GT-1 as is and a 'new' GT-2 combining the existing GT-2 cars (without the gear restriction) alongside the existing GT-A cars (as is)? Furthermore, sidewinder pods could be allowed in the new class, allowing for such items as Policar F-40s to run as sold along with some of the Scaleauto and Scalextric cars.

                            Anybody got any opinions? We talked about this last year and nothing ever came to pass.

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                            • I don't have a problem with combining the GT2 and GTA classes. they run about the same times

                              Chris

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                              • As long as I’m throwing ideas around...

                                ...let’s recognize what’s out there. Stuff Ron sells that’s more current, available, fairly fast, and could be kept stock with the ONLY exceptions being rear tires and weight tuning (just to make it easier on new people – which are needed desperately, in my opinion). AN EXAMPLE of what I’m suggesting would be a GT-3 class of cars raced or racing in the European or North American GT3/GTLM series and available with up-to-spec equipment by NSR, Scaleauto, and Racer which include Aston-Martin Vantage, Audi R8 LMS , BMW Z4, Chevrolet Corvette C6/C7, Dodge/SRT Viper, Lamborghini Huracan, Mercedes-AMG SLS, and Porsche 991 GT3, 997 GT3.

                                These all look to be available as anglewinders with long cans. The NSR motor is 21.4k, 350g/cm, the Racer motor is 21.4k, 350g/cm, and the Scaleauto motor is 21.5k, 300g/cm. The Scaleauto motor might be a little weak, but their cars appear to be lighter, so time would tell.

                                Any opinions?
                                Last edited by MacMoose; 09-06-2018, 02:22 PM.

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