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Old 07-25-2012, 08:28 AM
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Default Converting Slot.it 312 to AW

Has anyone converted the Ferrari 312 from SW to AW. I know the chassis has the cut out for the pod. I was thinking of trying a flat 6R on a SICH29 pod (no offset) in this car. If I do, will i be able to stay with an 18mm spur. If so, I would imagine i would have to go with a larger diameter pinion (than the stock 6.5mm that comes with the SW) since the slimmer motor has a lower centerline. I have never used and AW setup before. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 07-25-2012, 08:52 AM
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Vols,

I have not tried to do an anglewinder with the Ferrari 312PB. The reason I chose not to attempt this is that the interior interferes with the motor. I did not want to make any cuts in the interior to make this setup work.

However if you attempt to do this, why not use the .5 mm offset motor pod? The standard pod on the Ferrari 312PB is a .5 mm offset and with the stock wheels and tires will provide an adequate amount of clearance.

Like I said, I looked at it, but chose not to do it as there does not appear to be adequate room to make this.

However if you come up with a solution for this dilemma, I would absolutely love to hear it! The 2 cars that have anglewinders in them work very well.

Thanks for asking.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:06 AM
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Fl Slotter,
My 312 comes with a sich19 (black) pod. I thought that was a "0" offset pod. I will check and see. I will send you some pics when I figure out the gear sizes for fitting this AW in.

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Old 07-25-2012, 09:52 AM
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Vols,

Yes, you are correct. The SICH19 sidewinder motor pod is a 0 offset pod. I was wrong.

Perhaps with the 0 offset motor pod and the Flat-6 motor, it might be done.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:11 AM
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Too bad Slot.it doesn't offer a lexan interior for the 312 (and alfa), that would make it doable...
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:22 AM
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Well there is a company that makes some nice looking 1/32 interiors in lexan.

That would be TrueScaleProducts as they also make a lot of high quality 1/32 vacuum formed bodies. I think their Porsche 962 is awesome!

Their price is $1.00 for a lexan driver figure in 1/32 scale.

Here's an image of the product:

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Old 07-25-2012, 10:34 AM
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I'd like to have the lexan interior too.

I do have a Flat6R in one.... After a little fitting it is crazy fast!

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One of my friends set up the ferrari with a boxer/2 motor. It is a tight fit. And once he was done the car was nearly undrivable. Way too much power for a light weight car. I know it can be done. The question is should you do it?
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The question is should you do it?
That's what I found myself asking - what's to be gained?

If seeking more downforce (for running on plastic or magnabraid tracks) then surely there's an offset pod that could work, perhaps with an S-can known for it's magnetic attraction?
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:31 PM
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One of my friends set up the ferrari with a boxer/2 motor. It is a tight fit. And once he was done the car was nearly undrivable. Way too much power for a light weight car. I know it can be done. The question is should you do it?

I would certainly agree that the car with the Boxer/2 would be pretty hard to keep under control.

I have one of the Slot.It Lola B09/60s and once I got the chassis 'dialed in' I put a Boxer/2 motor in it. After about 10 laps with the car, I put the Flat-6 motor back into the car. Much easier to drive.

The Flat-6 motor has a nice flat torque curve that will allow you put just about any amount of power to the rear wheels. It is a very good motor with regards to drivability. The Flat-6R motor is a bit higher in power, but the powerband is rather narrow in comparison. I personally like the Flat-6 motor for the anglewinder set up.

Just my opinion of course.
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:10 PM
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In my experience, those cars that benefit from the anglewinder conversion are those with in-line arrangements. I have quite a few Slot.it sidewinders and at least on my track, they are faster than any of the in-lines and even quicker than the few I have converted to anglewinder.

I have a 312PB with a red can Slot.it motor and while it is very fast, it is also more difficult to control in the twisty bits.

I run no mag on sport track.
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:32 PM
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The question is should you do it?
Because when it comes to horsepower, more is better and too much is just right!!
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Because when it comes to horsepower, more is better and too much is just right!!
Paul, I am truely shocked and mortified to hear you say that........







...... not.

As to putting an anglewinder in a 312 - good luck with that!

Cheers, Tony.
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Thanks for all the replies. Really got alot of feedback. I guess I should leave the car with the sidewinder (orange 21.5K). Right now the car runs really well on my scaley track. I tought the flat 6 in AW configuration would help me. Probably would not gain much (if anything) from it. I'll probably try it anyway just to see for myself. I will most likely wind up doing what FL Slotter did, running 10 laps then converting it back. But you can't learn if you don't try.

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