OK, I understand the "angst" ... Apparently there were some obvious visual differences between the 55 Le Mans car, and the #202. It is nice when our models ,are accurate to a "T". If this was a $400 O Gauge locomotive, I'd be right there with you, pitchin' a B***h ...
But ... sadly .. the "innacuracies", seem to make for a better looking car !
And for what I expect to pay for it ...I'll take 2 !
Just "flip" the orange /green thing, so it's the opposite from the #55's I already have.
I don't like to encourage "bad behavior" by my model guys ... But this little puppy is gonna be sweet
P.S. Again not to let my favorite MfgGuy off the hook...
But clear headlight covers, and the wing can be easily painted. I mean, we are modellers , to a degree, aren't we ?
Someone will have the wing decal. But mine ? Well #55 has a sister car ... w/ lights ! (Might be paintin' the wing , though)
2nd PS
Maybe it ain't "innaccurate" ... Look at the other thread ... Orange wing & headlights !
See, Mr Slot.it isn't MTH or Lionel !
Last edited by ModelTrainGuy; 05-19-2012 at 07:38 PM.
Perhaps it wore the orange wing and lights in an earlier race.
Please someone, show us an IRL picture of the Slot.It #202 car to prove it's not pure fantasy.
I´ve searched the Net high and low for an orange front fendered version with lights and a green wing and have come up with - nothing.
Zip. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Nix. Rien. A big Goose Egg.
The hunt is on. Let's see it!
(Surely Slot.It must have had a picture of this very elusive car... Or? )
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Maybe it ain't "innaccurate" ... Look at the other thread ... Orange wing & headlights !
I really don't think its really worth all that effort ...
And for my purposes, its not a $400 locomotive. For the $49 or so $$$ I will spend on the thing
It looks pretty cool (I did some net searching too... and the only 202 photos are of the no lite variety (which really doesn't look interesting )
It is cool when our slot cars, are truly representative of historically significant race cars.
I could see wanting "street color" (non racing / solid cool colors of Slot.it Group C cars ...These are some of the hottest prototypes ever designed.
And as slot racers ... We race "cars" don't we ? So why not ?
See there is a difference, when the Mfg sells "fantasy" ... And tells you as much. As opposed to counting on your ignorance, as passing something off as the real thing . In these cases, significant features , like trucks, appliances, location of grills and vents . Fuel tanks , all can be missing or omitted. This sometimes happens on expensive model trains.
Here , where with some paint or decals, a "fix" is achieved. And you got all of $50 bucks in the thing ...
If there are "problems" with #202... I can deal with them. I'll take 2...
Last edited by ModelTrainGuy; 05-20-2012 at 01:24 AM.
The Slot.it 787B #55 was issued as one of the Le Mans winner series with packaging representative of that series, and sold out relatively quickly. Many of them are shelf queens added to collections of that series. The Le Mans winner is long gone and will not be re-issued.
That Maurizio chose to issue a less well known 787B with these striking colors is commendable. Those that missed the #55, or those who don't wish to race their shelf queens, will have the 202 for racing.
That rare bird, the green winged, orange shouldered, lighted screamer will likely surface; there are enough Mazdathologists out there looking for it. I'll bet there's one afficionado sitting back in his chair, having a laugh at this non-issue.
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That rare bird, the green winged, orange shouldered, lighted screamer will likely surface; there are enough Mazdathologists out there looking for it. I'll bet there's one afficionado sitting back in his chair, having a laugh at this non-issue.
There's nothing sinister here.
Bravo!
Is this one photoshoped as well?
Last edited by The Professor; 05-20-2012 at 08:35 AM.
Modeltrainguy makes a great point about a $400.00 version verse the $49.00/$59.00 car. If you want exact detail down to every last sponsor decal it is gonna cost big $$$. Race teams change those stickers all of the time, it cost big money to get your company on a car...
But think about this, what if Slot.it made different variations of the car based on the season. For instance, look at J.Johnson's Lowe's car from last night, way different than my Scalextric #48... In other collectible industries making different variations of the product is common in order to keep people chasing the complete set. Having to buy only one each of the #55 and #202 is a lot cheaper, instead of say 6 for the 3 different variations of each.
I guess my point is the cars change as the season goes on and the picture slot-it used might be different from what we see, or they made a few adjustments based on what they wanted. Maybe Mazda sent them a photo which was a pre-production version of the car before it raced and had numerous paint jobs. Regardless I will buy the rotary engine racer.
Only the re-numbered #55 car... (And possibly fake, as the "202" appears way too sharp and crisp vs the rest of the pic...)
Photoshop? Nope... just photography. Check the below shots. Note how motion can create zones that are more in focus than others. I'm told you can control this... I haven't figured out how yet.
The point is that it takes nothing extra to do things right. The car could easily have been produced with the green wing and with the headlight covers painted orange. Sure, the nose may not have been 100%, but that is not as glaring as the wing and covers.
If one is going to hype up a specific car as did Slot.it in the build up to the release of this one, the end product should look as much like the previews as is possible.
For those saying "it is simple enough to repaint. Are we not modelers?", well the answer to that is NO. Most people who buy slot cars are not modelers. They may be able to swap out running gear and motors, but the vast majority would not know how to go about repainting parts the correct shade to match and then make the proper markings to go on them.
For instance, you do not just simply paint the headlight covers orange, but you have to do some rather sophisticated repainting of the scheme on the nose when removing the old markings above the covers.
Bottom line is that if a company of any sort is going to release a product, it needs to look like the build-up advertising or have a huge disclaimer in that "The final product may not look the same as the image".
I knew that finalizing "possibly fake" comment would cause a lot of stir.
That's why I initially wrote it, and also decided to leave it in, as I didn't really believed it to be fake, and considered deleting it before posting.
Byt hey, are we having fun here, or are we having fun?
It's also fun and interesting to see "Slot.It Devotees United" rising together as one man even to the slightest (well...) criticism of their beloved brand. It seems Slot.It can get away with pretty much anything, whereas NSRs often more brilliant and groundbreaking efforts are more often than not thumbed down by the very same S.I.D.U people.
As a Slot.It man myself (and also NSR, BTW) I've probably got more Slot.It cars than most around here. I also was one of the early adopters, and still have the entire CA01a-f series intact (double actually, one for racing and one for the shelf), as well as the CA02. I guess I'm in the +100 range for just Slot.Its at the present.
I've seen both ups and downs in the Slot.It quality range over the years, and as Maurizio himself admits in this interview, "despite some mistakes that we have done, Slot.it is following the path"
And make no mistake: The new Slot.It LMP series, beginning with the Drayson-Lola, is one of the smartest and and most groundbreaking slot cars I've ever seen.
Very impressive, both in design, accuracy and performance!
That car alone coluld make me kiss Maurizios feet, literally.
But I still think they could have done a much better job with the #202 car, at least painted over the headlights and put on a green wing.
It's also fun and interesting to see "Slot.It Devotees United" rising together as one man even to the slightest (well...) criticism of their beloved brand.
"For those saying "it is simple enough to repaint. Are we not modelers?", well the answer to that is NO. Most people who buy slot cars are not modelers. They may be able to swap out running gear and motors, but the vast majority would not know how to go about repainting parts the correct shade to match and then make the proper markings to go on them."
And I submit, that to the non-modeler, to the typical, non-rivet countin' slot car fan...
The minor differences here , don't matter a whit !!!
It takes no great skill, to paint clear plastic covers green, and do the same to the wing....If it matters that much. Only a "modeller" , would bother to address the points you make above.
If you are that put off by a possible Slot.it sham ... DON'T BUY THE CAR !!!
Again ... This is a $50 slot car. Not a $110 dollar car , as it would be if NSR made it...
Not a $170 car, if BRM made it...
Sure I like Slot.it because of the quality product they make. But more so, because they sell at more than reasonable prices. At the $110 level, the "inaccurate" criticism begins to make sense ...
I say "Who Cares?" I'll still buy them!!!
I have white kits that are now "Fantasy Liveries" and I wouldn't trade one of my Rattle can cars for a new release. THey may not have decals a plenty, or even numbers on some of them but I created them cause I liked the car and the paints...I'll buy the ones I like and paint others from white kits but I like certain cars better than others. A Slot.It car is a Slot.It car and it may not be "PERFECT" but it is about the best car that our money can buy..considering scale, actual cars and performance. I always get more than I pay for when I purchase a Slot.It and then get to read about the cars and research them...
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Photoshop? Nope... just photography. Check the below shots. Note how motion can create zones that are more in focus than others. I'm told you can control this... I haven't figured out how yet.
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Nice pics Greenman. The sharpness has to do with the motion of your moving subject relative to the motion of your camera when panning. Not always easy to do because during exposure most camera viewfinders blackout so you must follow your subject before you snap the photo and follow through after it's taken. Because a car has many parts moving in directions (up, down, rotating etc..) contrary to the horizontal panning movement of your camera those parts will always be recorded with some degree of blur (as does the background, which is generally not moving). The amount of blur depends also upon the speed, direction (perpendicular, oblique etc...) and "size" of motion relative to the picture frame and also depends upon the chosen shutter speed.
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