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Old 05-26-2012, 02:38 PM
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Default Combine C n b and marshelled racing

How about this for a change of pace. When someone crashes, all cars stop. someone near to it puts it back on. The crashed car starts first. Once it is moving the rest of the field starts. and the race goes on in the manor you have chosen, laps,time or what ever. Combines the the two styles quite nicely.
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Old 05-26-2012, 02:47 PM
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So... there's no penalty for deslotting?
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Some penalty, but perhaps not as much as if the field kept on moving. By stopping the field you would loose less ground. And the possibility of crashing other cars while reslotting is not going to happen and marshells on the "payroll" of racers is gone.
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or reverse what you said
but the car on, the other get a 5 second go before the deslotted car can go!
yep, some folks already do this.

or the marshal can pay attention and wait for the track to be clear before he put the crashed car on!
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I think this will encourage people to drive beyond their abilities and crashing will increase. rules should place an enphasis on discouraging crashing, rather than encouraging it.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:23 AM
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I think drivers should be left to decide their own tactics, and all turns should be marshaled.
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I like reading different ideas, whether I'd use them or not
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We stop when a car comes off. We cannot marshal all the track so one is on the Kill Switch. As soon as he sees a car off he will cut the track power. It is enough of a penlty for the car coming off between the time of the off and the switch button is pushed. Works well.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:42 AM
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We stop when a car comes off. We cannot marshal all the track so one is on the Kill Switch. As soon as he sees a car off he will cut the track power. It is enough of a penalty for the car coming off between the time of the off and the switch button is pushed. Works well.
I love kill switch racing. To me it seems a well thought out solution to the lack of marshals that a hardcore racer would come up with, as opposed to using any form of crash and burn, where one suspects that the guy who runs the club and is always just off the top four has come up with it.

Certainly that has been my experience. You race crash and burn and think 'we have enough marshals, who came up with this? Or the rotation means you always have the same cars around you and you ask yourself the same thing. The worst one was having to pick your lane out of a bag after qualifying, with the pole man picking first. I kid you not.

Every time the 'brain' behind it is somebody involved with running the club, who no matter what he does cannot live with the top boys for pace, and whom brandishes the phrase 'level playing field' around. A lot.

With kill switch racing the emphasis is still on avoiding crashes, but you can run nearer you own limit and play it tactically. If a race gets to the death and you are just behind somebody you are much more likely to go for it if you have some kills to spare than you would if it was crash and burn.

Best yet, the stupid slow speed de-slot on lap one caused by somebody else has only minor impact, rather than giving you a mountain to climb all night if you want to come anywhere decent.

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We stop when a car comes off. We cannot marshal all the track so one is on the Kill Switch. As soon as he sees a car off he will cut the track power. It is enough of a penlty for the car coming off between the time of the off and the switch button is pushed. Works well.
I think a standard delay would be good on a kill switch be it mechanical/electronic or the button counting to 4 so it even for everyone!

kind of like marshaled races, you got the marshal with cat like reflexs who can get your car back on in 1.5 seconds and the marshal(barney the dino) who no matter what, takes 1.5 hours to get the car back on!
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um, where which lane is blue??


heck, I have done that at times
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My experience with kill switch racing has been that the drivers all have their own off switches, but that race control is the only one with an on switch.

Seems the best way.

What amuses me with the method is that those who dislike it the most are not the hardcore racers, it's the people who put an element of CnB into what their club does.

These are often the very same people who are hardly ever going to win a kill switch race, or ones with traditional marshals, and who claim it has to be CnB because they don't have enough members to marshal the races. When you present them with a solution that is much less draconian than CnB they fight it tooth and nail.

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Old 05-27-2012, 09:31 AM
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or reverse what you said
but the car on, the other get a 5 second go before the deslotted car can go!
yep, some folks already do this.

or the marshal can pay attention and wait for the track to be clear before he put the crashed car on!
Slotking now that's new one. Or race c and b and eliminate the dreaded marshall problem all together. Altho that would be draconain. Draconain, now that's a new one. Hmmm I wonder what other names there are for Cand B racing. Or marshaled racing for that matter?
Don't get your dander up guys it's all in fun.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:35 AM
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much less draconian than CnB
Our group numbers are down a bit, so we've started to trial C n B races in one class.

Far from being "draconian", it's sure as hell teaching me to drive SMARTER, and really benefiting my other (marshalled) races.

I'm one of the faster guys in our group btw (in fact quite often TQ, but don't win the race.. )
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