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Old 05-27-2012, 05:56 AM
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I find nothing suprising or statistically significant in these results.
The two biggest variables in this "comparison" are car setup and driver skill.
The only car related conclusion that can be drawn is,
Podded cars have an advantage over non-podded cars.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:50 AM
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Racing is never about statistical significance. You can win by a length after 12 hours and still be "the winner" even though your win is statistically insignificant. But, declaring one manufacturer better than others would indeed require statistically significant results, if the statement were to be true. The sport of racing is not to be about "true" superiority in a statistical sense, as luck and a myriad other factors influence the results, and are accepted by all.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:22 PM
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Winning itself is statistically significant provided all other variables are equal.
Would you conclude Audi's recent victories in the 24 hours of Lemans statistically significant, or luck?
The point is, unless you can attribute results to specific variables, there is no significance.
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Winning itself is statistically significant provided all other variables are equal.
Would you conclude Audi's recent victories in the 24 hours of Lemans statistically significant, or luck?
The point is, unless you can attribute results to specific variables, there is no significance.
I'd say one variable was same for all, the cars all had to last 4 hours and continue to perform well. The times were similar which as pointed out is a credit to the teams, but cars react differently to extended running under severe conditions, I understand the motors and tires were same, but cars
do have their own driving quirks. Seeing a new company like Mr Slotcar was a surprise to me, only because they have one car and it was just released a few months back, and Avant seems to be more a rally car specialist.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:54 PM
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If these results predict that Avant Slot will beat NSR and Slot.It in a preponderance of races, or even in races that resemble this one, the results are statistically significant by definition. But if each brand has an equal chance, and a series of races would show each brand winning with reasonably similar frequency, results of this race would be statistically insignificant.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:09 PM
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Agreed,
Which was my point from the beginning.
Im glad you concur
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:06 PM
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Racing is never about statistical significance. You can win by a length after 12 hours and still be "the winner" even though your win is statistically insignificant. But, declaring one manufacturer better than others would indeed require statistically significant results, if the statement were to be true. The sport of racing is not to be about "true" superiority in a statistical sense, as luck and a myriad other factors influence the results, and are accepted by all.
This is true and I agree with you but there are those who will buy on Monday what won on Sunday.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:21 PM
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Questions of statistics aside, it's good to see Avant Slot do so well vs. established Slot.It and NSR in a big race.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:01 PM
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Questions of statistics aside, it's good to see Avant Slot do so well vs. established Slot.It and NSR in a big race.
so true....they jumped in at a high level and look to have a very bright future.
Nothing improves the breed like what we have going on in this Manufacturer's Championship challenge.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:13 PM
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Their Audis and Peugeots are great cars!
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The Pescarolos and Porsche RS Spyders are pretty darn good too.
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Old 05-29-2012, 02:47 PM
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I wonder why the NSR team used the Mosler instead of the newer Audi R18 LMP?
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:25 PM
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'cause the Mosler is still the best car NSR makes, however stepped on it may look.
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