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Old 08-03-2012, 04:20 PM
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I will have to watch out for one of those OL Mike.

Instead of starting a new thread I am going to ask a new question if thats cool.

I think I am going to work with my artin cars to start with cause I found some pretty cool late model dirt track bodies that fit my frames. (I am a big dirt track fan)

What motors will fit into my artin cars I was looking on professor motors and was getting a little overwhelmed?
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I will have to watch out for one of those OL Mike.

Instead of starting a new thread I am going to ask a new question if thats cool.

I think I am going to work with my artin cars to start with cause I found some pretty cool late model dirt track bodies that fit my frames. (I am a big dirt track fan)

What motors will fit into my artin cars I was looking on professor motors and was getting a little overwhelmed?
Check this out...
-->Or one of these...
-->http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...ac.JqNlW7HtlyQ
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:33 PM
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That was so cool
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:16 PM
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That may have been the coolest thing I have ever seen. I just wonder what they used for snow.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:12 PM
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That may have been the coolest thing I have ever seen. I just wonder what they used for snow.
Apparently they using cornstarch for rally competitions either for snow or dirt , just pour it on the track & race , once you're finish just vacuum the track & clean the cars , that's it you're done

As long as you don't drop water on the cornstarch you should be OK...

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Old 08-04-2012, 03:51 AM
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Apparently they using cornstarch for rally competitions either for snow or dirt , just pour it on the track & race , once you're finish just vacuum the track & clean the cars , that's it you're done

As long as you don't drop water on the cornstarch you should be OK...
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:33 AM
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What motors will fit into my artin cars I was looking on professor motors and was getting a little overwhelmed?
take a look at www.ranch-design.com
if you want a really fast motor - take the G9330.
1/32nd motors will fit if the size is 13D (short). that selection is wide ....
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:47 AM
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a great motor is in the tooth brush section of your local store, yes guys are running cars with tooth brush motors
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:27 AM
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a great motor is in the tooth brush section of your local store, yes guys are running cars with tooth brush motors
The toothbrush motor is a cheap option, But those motors are generally only rated for a maximum of 3 or 4 volts & they don't use a quality brush material since they are designed to be thrown away. Reports I have seen is that they die a quick death in the average slot car. You may be able to get some use out of them in an Artin, because they are only 6 volts,but even then I expect a short life span.

The best motor I have seen for Artins (IMHO) are the small open frame "boxer" motors similar to HO motors; these solve allot of the problems inherit with Artin. Namely, Huge motor in a small car and removes that huge lump & lowers the center of gravity while also allowing the fitment of smaller bodies!

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problem with the most H0-motors - the short motor axle. plus the motor axle on H0s is normally 1.5mm. The artin motor axle and pinion are 2mm.
the G9330 comes with a pinion that meshes with the artin crown fairly well. you need to set the axle play to a minimum, otherwise the G9330 will eat the crown.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:31 AM
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Thanks I like the idea of the boxer engine so I can lower the center of gravity. The artin frames seem to be a little tall and getting them a little lower should really help keeping them on the track. On Ranch-design are the wheels priced individually or as a pair?

One last question, what is a good gear ratio to go with?
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:36 AM
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I HOPE THIS HELP Radio Shack Motors for 1/43 and small 1/32
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These three Radio Shack motors are the same size as the SCX 1/43 motor (a Scalextric standard FC-130 motor is shown for size comparison). The small Radio Shack motors will fit in 1/43 cars, and may be used in very small 1/32 cars, including narrow F1 racers from the mid 1960's with full drivers. The FF-030 size is the same in cross section as the familiar F-050 "slim can" motors made for BWA, Scalextric, etc. Shaft is 1.5mm diameter. An oilite bearing is fitted on the metal can end, while the other end of the shaft appears to run in a plastic bearing molded in the end bell.

The three "Rat Shack" motors are in packages labeled 6 volt, 7.5 volt, and 9 volt. Performance specs on the packaging indicate the following:
6v motor 17,000 RPM +/- 15%, 8 gcm minimum stall torque
7.5v motor 20,000 RPM +/-12%, 21 gcm min. stall torque
9v motor 24,000 RPM +/- 12%, 26 gcm min. stall torque

RPM tests with a tachometer showed all motors revving within their stated variability band, at their given voltage:
6v motor: 16,283 RPM at 6v
7.5v motor: 20,458 RPM at 7.5v
9v motor: 23,558 RPM at 9v

Torque was assessed at a uniform 4.07 volts, showing they all have about the same torque:
6v motor: 15.7 gcm at stall at 4.07v
7.5v motor: 14.3 gcm at stall at 4.07v
9v motor: 16.4 gcm at stall at 4.07v

When converted to their rated voltage, we find that all exceed their rated torque:
6v motor: 23 gcm at 6v (8 gram minimum stated on the package)
7.5v motor: 26 gcm at 7.5v (21 gcm minimum)
9v motor: 36 gcm at 9v (26 gcm minimum)

And finally, the moment of truth. What will they do on 12 volts, a more or less standard voltage for slot cars? Torque was extrapolated upward from the 4.07 test voltage, and RPM was directly read when the motors were given a full 12v:
6v motor: 29,326 RPM/12v, 46 gcm stall torque/12v
7.5v motor: 31,674 RPM/12v, 42 gcm stall torque/12v
9v motor: 29,849 RPM/12v, 48 gcm stall torque/12v

It appears that all three motors are the same, given the natural performance variation of very small DC motors of this type. Even though they are labeled at three different performance levels, and three different voltages, I could not detect any meaningful, significant differences between the motors.

The SCX Compact 1/43 motor is rated 22,000 RPM/12v, 33 gcm torque/12v. No tests of the SCX Compact have been conducted, but it looks like the Radio Shack motors may make your little slot cars go faster. i my self have found that the fast lane champions are a good running the motors can run up to 14 volts with no problems
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:53 PM
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RadioShack motors have the same problem as the H0 motors - short motor axle, diameter of motor axle 1.5mm, makes conversion of artins harder ...
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Old 08-04-2012, 01:57 PM
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Thanks I like the idea of the boxer engine so I can lower the center of gravity. The artin frames seem to be a little tall and getting them a little lower should really help keeping them on the track. On Ranch-design are the wheels priced individually or as a pair?

One last question, what is a good gear ratio to go with?
gear ratio will depend strongly on the choosen motor, can´t answer this for all motors ...
ranch-design wheels are priced per wheel, the quality is simply awesome! artin axle diameter is 0.085" btw.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:37 PM
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hi, teach.... for me its artin, carrera, scx! i use the same kind of transformer (artin)for all 3 of my tracks--that way i can use all my cars on all 3 tracks- had to cut some wires,do some spliceing but no big thing!!
good luck bud!
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