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Old 08-17-2012, 09:33 AM
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As an Audi guy I'm sort of embarrassed to even ask this. I'm working on a project, an NSR Audi R8 GT white body kit which I would like to livery as an homage to the Hurley Haywood, Hans Stuck, Walter Rohrl, 1988 Trans Am Champion... "The Flying Frigidaire"



I've got the graphics pretty well covered, but I'm having trouble with the colors. As you can see from the photos what we have here is essentially a white car with colored stripes or patches. That's where the issue arises. I can ID the bright orange red... the tan and dark brown are what I'm having problems with. I'd like to replicate or get as close to the actual colors as I can. Contemporary cars are liveried in red gray and black as well as the browns and tans.

Can anyone ID these colors? Their names would be a starting point... the color codes would be fabulous.

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Old 08-17-2012, 11:38 AM
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It will take a little digging to figure this out but it may help .

One of these cars recently resurfaced on the Vintage circuit after an extensive restoration . I know I read about the cars and the resto somewhere but at the moment I don't remember where . If you can find the info it will say where the resto was done . You might get paint codes either from the car's owner and/or the shop .

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Old 08-17-2012, 12:03 PM
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I've made a request to a friend of mine who owns a Porsche/Audi dealership. I'll let you know if he responds. (But he may want you to make him a car too before he gives up the data!)
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I've made a request to a friend of mine who owns a Porsche/Audi dealership. I'll let you know if he responds. (But he may want you to make him a car too before he gives up the data!)
We can work something out... He gets me the info I'll build 2 and sell him one at a price break. BTW I've asked Milan Tomasek to build a Flying Frigidaire for me... I'm sure he'd be happy to build up another.

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Old 08-17-2012, 01:18 PM
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SCX models that car. I saw the real deal in Vegas a few years back. Sorry, but I don't have the paint codes. I did take some photos though:





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Old 08-17-2012, 01:55 PM
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I think this car was on the cover of the Nov./Dec 2010 issue of Vintage Motorsport magazine. The article may have information on the name of the current owner and/or the name of the shop that did the restoration. You can buy back issues on the magazine's website, or maybe an SCI member has a copy of that issue.
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Ooh , Ooh , Ooh !

He just might be right and I think I have the magazine downstairs in the race room . I'll look after dinner .

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Old 08-17-2012, 04:25 PM
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Default Guys, Guys, Guys...

I HAVE the magazine too... The photo above comes from that article which states it was in the Blackhawk Museum when the photo shoot was done, but heading for the Auction block shortly thereafter... Who Owns the car now is AFAIK unknown.

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Old 08-17-2012, 04:31 PM
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i live three miles from the blackhawk auto museum. if anyone can confirm that the car is still there, i can swing by and ask if they have any info on the paint colors.

if all else fails, i can scrape some paint off an inconspicuous area when no one is looking.
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if all else fails, i can scrape some paint off an inconspicuous area when no one is looking.
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Hans Stuck, Hurley Haywood, & Walter Röhrl

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Old 08-18-2012, 05:19 AM
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I also had the magazine and there is a second lead in the article . It is possible the Museum may be able to tell you who the current owner is or what shop did the resto work or maybe even still has some paperwork from their ownership with something useful on it .
The other potentially useful nugget I had forgotten is that the cars were built by Bob Tullius' Group 44 team . One thing they are notorius for was keeping excellent records . You may be able to reach out in that direction for info also. There is a guy here in CT doing a replic Group 44 Triumph and was able to track down info from someone who had been connected to them on the color of the green for the stripe . I will find out how he did that .

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Old 08-18-2012, 09:46 AM
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The other potentially useful nugget I had forgotten is that the cars were built by Bob Tullius' Group 44 team . One thing they are notorius for was keeping excellent records . You may be able to reach out in that direction for info also.
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Good one Durf... I should have thought about that... before I was an Audi guy I was a Triumph guy... I got better...

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I checked my pictures from when I went to the Imperial Palace auto museum in 2010 of the Audi Trans Am and I don't have anything better than has already been posted. I would try locating Bob Tulius from Group 44, as far as I know he is still active in the vintage racing scene. According to the Imperial Palace website it looks like the car is still there, you might also try contacting them for paint info. I found an address for his business in Sebring, Fl, it is
Group 44 Inc.
44 Victory Lane
Sebring, FL 33870
and a phone #(863) 655-4400
I would think since he ran the team, that perhaps he could tell you the paint colors.

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Old 08-18-2012, 10:24 PM
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I checked my pictures from when I went to the Imperial Palace auto museum in 2010 of the Audi Trans Am and I don't have anything better than has already been posted. I would try locating Bob Tulius from Group 44, as far as I know he is still active in the vintage racing scene. According to the Imperial Palace website it looks like the car is still there, you might also try contacting them for paint info.
I would rather talk to someone from Group 44 from the time. According to the VM article there was some bad feelings between Tulius and Audi. Tulius was a "hands on" kind of guy... sort of a "control weenie". Typical of Audi, they weren't and still aren't ones to let much fiddling around go on without some serious serious oversight... especially after the "unintended acceleration" kerfuffle a few years previously.

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