Hi, i have a Ninco track and was wondering what compound of tire would work best on the rough surface or texture . Most stock or factory tires that come on (all manufactuers) cars appear to be to hard for my Ninco track . I am trying to get away from magnets and ajust the cars with lead weight instead. The factory tires just spin and the cars fish tale everyware, but worse on the corners. I realize that no mag racing is different than racing with magnets and you can't go as fast in corners, but unless i get a handle on the tire issue i really don't now how much weight (lead) to put in each of the cars.Robert
I also have NINCO track and I use Slot-it F series or BRM rubber tires if they still make them?? Both are rubber and shore rated the lower the number the softer the tire and they work fantastically for non mag. The tires do marble cause they are soft which is pretty cool. Have fun!!
If you do not want to deal with rubber or urethane, then try silicones. I have found that all of them work quite well on Ninco track. There is the caveat that you have to keep the track clean, something that can be an issue with a rough track surface. The nice thing about silicones is that the wear is minuscule compared to most rubber and urethane compounds.
With magnetless racing, IMHO tires are a relatively small part of the equation. Weight is too. You might want to look to where you are adding weight. In the wrong place it will exacerbate handling problems. Remember, with weight you add mass, then inertia comes into play. You lose acceleration and also increased mass moves back braking points. You don't need very much weight if it's in the right place.
Driving without magnets requires a different mindset. I liken it to driving 1:1 Formula Vee race cars. All FVees are pretty much the same in power to weight. No one is supposed to dominate in a grid full of FVees. Winning comes from who's the best at "smooth". "Conservation of momentum" wins races. It's the same in magnetless slot racing. You've got to be smoother in your driving technique. It's a learned thing. You'll get better with practice.
"With magnetless racing, IMHO tires are a relatively small part of the equation."
Originally Posted by Moby Dick
Couldn't agree less with that statement. Tires are the single biggest factor in regards to handling characteristics, particularly cars without magnets.
That is a fact. Just like in real world racing, tires are often the difference between doing well and not. When the magnets come out, tires are the number one item between whether your car slithers around like a snake on grease or hooks up and goes. On clean plastic, I have found that there is nothing better for traction than silicone.
With magnetless racing, IMHO tires are a relatively small part of the equation.
I also do not agree with this. The correct tires for the track surface are my first consideration. But then....
Weight is too.
Or, you might say, weight is two (get it? get it?) After determining the best tires....
You might want to look to where you are adding weight. In the wrong place it will exacerbate handling problems.
Totally agree with this. And be aware that proper and effective weight placement can be determined by how "grippy" your tires are. I also agree that, generally speaking, the less weight you use, the better.
track............Roberto .......stick with your countrymen..........PAUL GAGE there "some" of the best. We run 'em here on our Digital Ninco and get great results and we are NOT constantly cleaning the track..
Tires are without a doubt the number ONE factor in "Magless racing" IMO!!!!
I have used F22's and get good results (preparing a car for the SCI Shootout BUT man do they wear fast....on that rough surface.
This post is great stuff as i am entering into doing some compound testing with NSR,Indy Grip silicone,Paul G and Yellow dog.I have used all of these tires on different cars mostly on SCX plastic track and it's been hard to tell whats better because the tracks i run on differ quite a bit even with the same surface.The difference's are mostly track temperture,track elevation and twisting track with a few crests that are tuff for keeping good traction.I am going to test on one track with same car four makes of tires and see what choice i come up with and then see how they work, at each individuall track.I will have to do it with seven more cars because from what i have seen so far with car slot racing is some cars need more "HELP!!"than others.
As previously said, NSR Super/Ultra and Slot it F22 or even F15 if you're looking for short term outright speed. If you can find Spirit 303 or Scaleauto racing rubber, that may work equally well and wear less. I don't know about BRM, some MB slot soft compounds are ok and some Racer too. And Fly tires, when trued, polished and treated with oil (Nsr oil or similar) will work nicely.
No urethane or silicon tire will match any of the above tire's performance on Ninco. At least from my experience.
There is a very good selection of high-quality aftermarket tires available. I buy from K&D Model Racing Tires (Kevin). They are high-grip [Urethane] rubber and perform very well on my Ninco track, especially without the magnet. If he does not carry a particular tire, he will make it for you.
Also, you might want to try the Ninco Laprene compound tires (if they are available in a compatible size, of course). They are designed for Ninco track and provide a good balance between grip and wear.