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Old 11-28-2008, 09:13 AM
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Yes, the RX42b is slightly down on RPM to the Scaly "black stripe" motor, but I have turned sub 10 second laps with a SCX NASCAR. And I am by far not the fastest guy racing at Ace.
Two races for NASCAR is not a bad idea. Run a NASCAR class that allows both Scaly and SCX (for the fast SCX racers) and a SCX only class, but both at 14v and with magnets! Remember Saturday is mag racing day!
Does anybody have a Magnet Marshal that you could use to set the max down force for all GT and LMP cars? If all the cars had the same down force numbers, the Vipers would be just like all the other cars and have to fight for positions.
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I have a scale that can measure magnetic down force. I don't have a clue as to how it would compare to a "magnet marshall" but we could experiment with it. Some cars seem to be "gifted" with a much sweeter motor than others as well. Maybe we should check motor resistance readings as well. If all these motors are wound exactly the same they should all have the same OHM reading right. In real racing weight is also measured and a minimum limit is set. I think we all have some good ideas here and we need to review so that we can make rules that keep the "new kids" in the game. Some of us are both cleaver enough and sneaky enough to take advantage in ways that are sometimes hard to see. Not that I think any of our up standing group of fine racers would consider any thing like that. Right?
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:48 AM
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Greetings Race Fans. C-Bill has asked me to post a note on No-Mag Racing on Thursday night. Here are some of my thoughts on what we might do on Thursday. We could use it as more practice and set up for Group "C" cars. I personnaly would like to start getting some testing and evaluation of running as many 70's Can-Am or period compatable GT cars running the same motors (and gear configurations if needed) to have as many differant makes of cars on the track. I'm thinking orange end bell slot.it motors in Ninco, SCX, Scalextric, Fly, or what ever brand car that would race in that group or class.
One of the things I'd like to do is start by getting together to test and collect data on these cars. Maybe we start by defining what kind of lap times we think are do-able and how to derive that from each differant car. I know my Hero, Yellow Doggie has done a lot of work already in this area and possibly he can be our advisor or at least share his experience with us. However I don't want to try to saddle him with more work. At any rate if you are interested in doing some work toward this type of racing let's get some conversation going this coming Thursday evening say between 6 and 9:00. - Jeff
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:26 PM
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Hey guys

I had pm'd Dan a few class ideas that I had for No-mag racing. I'll see if he still has it and if you would be kind enough to print it off (insert begging here!) It consisted of 5 or 6 classes that we could run 3 1st and 3rd week and the other 3, the 2nd and 4th week of the month. If we run this type of format, it should feel like the same old cars all the time
1 was a vintage GT.. orange endbell, spec gear
Vintage can-am...orange endbell, spec gear
Modern GT...orange endbell, spec gear
Vintage nascar
modern nascar
Modern LMP/Group C under 25K motor open gear, tires etc.

I would like to see all these being tuner classes, as nothing is sweeter than running a nice and smooth running car as hard as it can be run, well almost nothing

We could run them with a breakout rule ( car can't run faster than a given seconds per lap).
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:18 AM
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Dom I left a copy of your PM on the wall at Ace a while back. I guess not too many have read it.
In general I feel your ideas will form a solid base for a lot of classes and very good racing. I do like the idea of not running the same classes week after week. I have several Ferrari 312's and Alfa's that would like to mix it up with some Fly Porsches a couple times a month.
Break out racing, that would be easy. Set the "rider" lock out time and if you are too fast, you loose that lap.
I would like to keep the LMP and Grp C class motor rule to 25k and lower. We run that rule in the WNYSC series and in the SRO.
I should be back to my duties full time at Ace very soon.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:09 PM
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Well sounds good to me. I apologize for not paying more attention. You two guys have always had some pretty good ideas (politics excluded, eh hum). We're talking Scale Racing here, chuckle, chuckle... I will do my best to be there Thursday and bring a variety of no-mag Can-Am and GT cars at least. Hopefully we'll get some guys there to discuss and start something.
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:10 PM
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I will try to make it Thursday night.
By the way Jeff, your decales are works of ART. Ron said something about $12 a sheet. Not too pricy for that kind of work.
See ya Thursday'
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:48 PM
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I believe Slot-it sells a kit that includes the gear, pinion, axle and the wheels for Fly and Scaly sidewinders. Maybe Ron can order some in and that could be the spec gear ratio.

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Old 12-06-2008, 06:52 PM
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Wouldn't it be easier to use Slot-it parts? Ron gots lots and I think the gear ratio in the Ferrari 312 and Alfa fit the Fly S/Wre pods (Porsche 917 for sure).
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:29 PM
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I actually meant Slot-it. They have an axle conversion kit with all the parts less bearings, which Ron has the Parma bearings in stock
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:24 AM
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So far I have converted a Ninco Mclaren, a SCX Corvette and a Spirit Ferrari 512M to run with a Slot.it power train. I am thinking for Thursday night, we could run a mid-sixties through mid seventies Can-Am series. I believe the Slot.it Ferrarri 312P and the Alfa Romeo 33/3 cars have an 11 tooth pinion and 34 tooth spur gear. I set up my Spirit Ferrari 512M with the orange end bell and same gear ratio. C-Bill and I did some preliminary testing with the Alfa and the 512M and they were very close even though the 512M is about 13 grams heavier. The Alfa was a little faster. We may want to play with some weight. The nice thing is that there are a lot of cars from this era that with a little tuning can give us a great variety of cars to race. Dom has already come up with some good suggestions on what we can do and I want to add to the list.
Here's some ideas first of all let's meet on Thursday evenings at Ace Hobby and bring some 1960's-1970's Can-Am or Proto-type cars, Slot.it Alfas & Ferraris, Scaly, MRRC or Monogram Chaparrals, GB Track Chevrons, Monogram or Scaley Corvettes, Fly and Scaley Ferrari GTOs, 330 P4s, Berlinettas, Coda Lungas, Spirit 512Ms, Slotter 312PBs, MRRC or Monogram Shelby Cobras, Fly or Scaly GT40s, Lola T70s, HSRR McLaren M8Ds, Monogram & Fly Porsche 904s, 908s, 917s, 917/10s, Flunders, Spirit 934s, 936s to name a few. The series will evolve as we learn together how to make these cars competitive which may mean adding weight or defining gear ratios to keep within a speed range. I am also considering a rule on no two identical cars run at the same time. So if two Slot.it Alfas are on the track they won't have the same number. I'm interested in SCALE racing as much as posible. At 12v Bill and I had the Alfa and the 512M both with orange end bell and 11/34 gears turning 12.5 sec lap times in scale speed that's about 270mph which is just fine! - Well let's meet and start talking and testing.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:44 PM
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Sounds like a date, Oh furry one
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:52 PM
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Default Saturday Nov. 29 Race report

Ongoing computer problems the last couple weeks have prevented this report until now, s ohere it goes.
First race was Nascar with magnets
was Bagman Racing with 67.30 laps (By lap times over 2nd)
was Fatman racing with 67.30 laps
was Boobie with 67.02 laps
4th was Steve with 66.25 laps
5th was Glitch with 66.02 laps
6th was Black Hole racing with 65.60 laps
7th was Mark with 65.25 laps
8th was Lou with 63.20 laps
9th was Root Road Racing with 61.30 laps
10th was T-Bone with 60.15 laps

Second Race was "Vipers" only race
was Mark with 68.80 laps
was Glitch with 68.20 laps
was Bagman Racing with 66.05 laps
4th was Fatman racing with 65.45 laps
5th was Boobie with 64.90 laps
6th was T-Bone with 62.25 laps
7th was Steve with 59.30 laps

Third Race was GT's (Minus Vipers)
was Boobie with 68.25 laps
was Steve with 67.02 laps
was Root Road Racing with 66.45 laps
4th was Fatman Racing with 65.25 laps
5th was Bagman racing with 63.50 laps

Fourth Race was LMP's
was Steve with 74.50 laps
was Fatman Racing with 73.05 laps
was Bagman racing with 72.50 laps
4th was Boobie with 71.95 laps
5th was T-Bone with 68.25 laps
6th was Root Road racing with 62.35 laps

Sorry about the late report
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Default Saturday Dec. 06 race report

After being accused of upseting customers last week in trying to have a coupe different races than normal, the race schedule was more normal this week.
The First race was Nascar with magnets
was Fatman racing with 65.65 laps
was Glitch with 65.10 laps
was Root Road Racing with 64.65 laps
4th was Boobie with 64.55 laps
5th was Steve with 64.10 laps (By lap times over 6th)
6th was CBill with 64.10 laps
7th was Tom with 63.02 laps
8th was Lou with 62.50 laps
9th was T-Bone with 59.60 laps
10th was David with 54.10 laps

2nd race was GT's
was Fatman Racing with 69.35 laps (By lap times over second)
was Boobie with 69.35 laps
was Steve with 68.50 laps
4th was Lou with 68.25 laps
5th was Root Road racing with 67.75 laps
6th was Tom with 65.25 laps
7th was Glitch with 65.10 laps
8th was T-Bone with 57.25 laps
9th was David with 55.90 laps

3rd race was LMP's
was Fatman Racing with 73.02 laps
was Glitch with 72.20 laps
was Steve with 72.10 laps
4th was Boobie with 71.35 laps
5th was Root Road Racing with 71.10 laps
6th was T-Bone with 66.40 laps
7th was Tom with 63.55 laps
8th was David with 59.10 laps

lack of time prevented any other races.
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Old 12-09-2008, 07:31 PM
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Ongoing computer problems the last couple weeks have prevented this report until now, s ohere it goes.
First race was Nascar with magnets
was Bagman Racing with 67.30 laps (By lap times over 2nd)
was Fatman racing with 67.30 laps
was Boobie with 67.02 laps
4th was Steve with 66.25 laps
5th was Glitch with 66.02 laps
6th was Black Hole racing with 65.60 laps
7th was Mark with 65.25 laps
8th was Lou with 63.20 laps
9th was Root Road Racing with 61.30 laps
10th was T-Bone with 60.15 laps

Second Race was "Vipers" only race
was Mark with 68.80 laps
was Glitch with 68.20 laps
was Bagman Racing with 66.05 laps
4th was Fatman racing with 65.45 laps
5th was Boobie with 64.90 laps
6th was T-Bone with 62.25 laps
7th was Steve with 59.30 laps

Third Race was GT's (Minus Vipers)
was Boobie with 68.25 laps
was Steve with 67.02 laps
was Root Road Racing with 66.45 laps
4th was Fatman Racing with 65.25 laps
5th was Bagman racing with 63.50 laps

Fourth Race was LMP's
was Steve with 74.50 laps
was Fatman Racing with 73.05 laps
was Bagman racing with 72.50 laps
4th was Boobie with 71.95 laps
5th was T-Bone with 68.25 laps
6th was Root Road racing with 62.35 laps

Sorry about the late report
I don't really understand the need for running two GT races. Mark was 1st with a Viper with 68.8 laps. Boobie (with a regular(?) GT) would have been second with 68.25 laps. 3rd would have been a Viper with 68.20. 4th would have been aGT with 67.02. 5th would have been a GT, ect.
The race result would have been:
1-Viper
2-GT
3-Viper
4-GT
5-GT
6-Viper
7-Viper
8-GT
9-Viper
10-GT
11-Viper
12-Viper
Maybe we should try to include more cars instead of excluding cars and racers. Maybe we could look into total mag down force for all cars in the class and let everybody race their favorate GT's.
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:52 PM
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12/11
No mag GT/ 12 sec break-out
Dom, 54.85
Yellowdog, 54.40
Steve, 53.90
CBill, 52.25
BHR, 52.02
Vinny, 47.40
Fast Lap, Dom, 12.011
Friday Night Mag Racing
Russ, 97.55
Doug, 97.40
Scott, 96.55
Rob, 90.90
Ron, 88.05
Fast Lap, Scott, 6.234
2nd race
Rob, 91.00
Scott, 89.00
Russ, 86.00
Doug, 85.00
Ron, 81.00
Fast Lap, Rob, 6.609
3rd race
Scott, 82.50
Rob, 81.40
Russ, 81.25
Doug, 76.80
Ron, 76.50
Fast Lap, Russ, 8.o25
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