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Old 02-20-2005, 03:20 AM
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Default Best Lane Slot Track

The people in France are still at this concept. Now with a How-It-Works in english.

sillage.racing.free.fr/

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Old 02-20-2005, 05:08 AM
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My opinion is that he has found a solution for a problem that does not exist.
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Old 02-20-2005, 07:01 AM
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I am not sure how oval (nascar & IRL) racing works, but the BLST system seems much much more realistic than analogue or conventional digital systems in terms of F1, le mans and other european style racing that I watch.

The system does not need a lane change button - in a sense you can race much more like you race an analogue slot set - ie the car steers itself, you use your reflexes to optimise the throttle.

The system automatically changes lane or not - following the best lane where possible. I see this as realistic - since these decisions in a 1:1 racing driver would be instinctual and reflex. Also, the default line is the best line.

I think they have done a brilliant job of thinking about the possibilities of digita, without being constrained by assumptions from analogue slot racing. Hope it reaches production soon!

Of course - whether or not it is actually fun and addictive - until we can play with, we just have meaningless speculation!
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:32 AM
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Default it always takes newbies 2 point out da lack of realism

gosh y cant slots be like real racin

yea we cant have miniminimeats runnin around
cause cost 2 much 2 feed em
n da pets might eat em

n believe someone wanted racin sounds
instead of sounds of slots
can u believe daa even made a record of it
slots dat iz
durin da 60s
watta stoned era

well what we can do iz add da smells
spray little petrol in air with some oil drippins
add little pooh droppins 2 ur track outhouse
u git da pic
make it real
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:15 AM
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He started designing this before any commercial digital systems were available, so I'm guessing he didnt see the flaw in the concept:

When taking a turn, you need to know which lane you are going to be in. If his computer program switches you automatically, you are bound to be surprised by which lane it puts you in -- in which case you'll overdrive and deslot, or underdrive and lose ground.

Besides the fact that it eliminates the prime advantage of digital which is the abilty to choose lanes.

I give it a 5% chance of making it beyond a prototype. Tu verra!

But it is eye-candy for those who have never driven digital. Now they can say "Why doesn't YOUR digital system do that!?"
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:40 AM
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Chris - you may be right about not knowing what speed to take a corner, but then again you may be wrong. I find it plausible, that since you do not have to worry about pressing extra buttons, your mind will be able to concentrate on 'reading the road', so it will be obvious from the cars around you whether you will take the best lane or not.

Real drivers of european races that I watch do not have a real choice - they MUST take the best line except if there is a car in the way, if they wish to win. In this sense it mirrors this style of racing.

I haven't tried it, but I won't dismiss it so easily either! Maybe it is folly, or maybe it is the future...
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:43 AM
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Hi Darainbow,

your estimation is very interesting. But I use everyday a digital system and I use one from the begining. With 2 cars at the first time (self made) and six now :

<img border=0 src="http://sillage.racing.free.fr/fullconf1.JPG" />

You put your finger on the only point who is very interesting. Is it me who control the direction of my car or the computer ?

First, there is no computer to control LC but only sensors, and there sensors are very difficult to adjust to make a good feed back to the driver. My system is more dificult to learn but you understand how it works after 15 minutes and the challange is more interesting that the other system.

But you're right, there is a lot of desloting, but the winner is allways the better driver.

best regards.

I've forgotten, your the only one who say to me what he think, It's a very good thing for me. My system is not made to be loved by everyone. And the 5% you give to me will become 100% in two months, tu verras.


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Old 03-21-2005, 07:12 AM
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Salut David - ton Anglais s'améliore!

Bravo pour traverser l'Atlantique!

Gorpie - you never change!
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Old 03-23-2005, 05:25 AM
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Best Racing Line is excellent, IMO -- great work, David. As a driver, I wouldn't expect any more deslots on this track than with any of the current digital tracks. It should be pretty clear several feet before the corner who will get there first, and who will get the best racing line (could be both drivers).

I hope to see this system available commercially. It brings something to the table that no digital system currently brings -- simplicity of operation!
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Old 03-23-2005, 07:04 AM
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Yes, there has been a lot of smart thinking, as well as a huge amount of work, put into this system. In addition to which, David's creations are among the best looking tracks I have seen.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:55 PM
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hi,

new <a href="http://sillage.racing.free.fr/barcelonerace.wmv" target="_new">video</a>

<img border=0 src="http://sillage.racing.free.fr/barcelonerace.jpg" />

enjoy

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Old 05-06-2005, 05:46 PM
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Default Natural racing

David, watching this video it seems to me that the racing is very 'natural'. It looks like there's a good flow to it.

You've driven this a lot -- does the system ever confuse the driver by changing lanes at unexpected times? Can the driver make accurate predictions about which lane he'll be in, so he can adjust his speed in time for a corner?
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:07 PM
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Hi ElSecundo and thank you,

The system is very basic and very easy to predict when two cars are very near. when there are 3 or more cars, it's imposible to a normal brain to choose the best lane, so the system do it for you. in this cas, the only thing you have to do is to be carefull and wait 1 feet rear the other and let the system find for you the little hole where you will can overtake.

drivers are between 9 and 12 years old, and they have raced 2h30. only one of them have practiced before (the white ford focus who dislocate hard in the box strait.

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Old 05-06-2005, 11:03 PM
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David,

The system looks great. Are you using the Scalextric lane changing devices or are you using your own? Are you happy with the Scalextric digital for your track?

Mike
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Old 05-06-2005, 11:42 PM
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hi,

good question.
lane change are mine because there are automatique. I will use SSD sensor for pit lane.

SSD is good for my track because this track is very slow and lap timer with 1/1000s is very fun. 6 cars is a little too big, a good race is with 4 or 5 cars.


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