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Old 02-15-2006, 11:07 PM
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Default Le Mans movie cars wanted by young boys.. info needed.. comes with a sweetener though

First - the spoonful of honey..



Now - we're sitting here watching Le Mans - again - and it's sweet.

The boys have asked why we can't have all the cars.. I decided yeah - why not.

Now I can't afford to buy all the RTR cars available (found out about them too late)so decided stuff it - I'll build them. I need three bits of information.

1. Where can I buy the right bodies & decals to suit?

2. How do you build chassis or should you buy them? How do you mount bodies?

3. Is there a how to on how to get the best results?

4. Where can I find a list of the cars??

Ok that's four questions.. I found you a pretty picture though!
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:21 AM
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Hi Eno,

Airfix makes a 1/32 scale 917k. I'm not sure what chassis would fit underneath it. Spirit makes Ferrari 512M cars that are still available, or Fly Ferrari 512 Coda Lunga models can also still be seen on some retailers shelves. Throw in a Porsche 908/2 Flunder and 917 Longtail and you're good to go. The Lola T70 that does multiple spins in the film will be almost as tricky to find as a Fly Gulf 917. A Porsche 911S or Ferrari 365 GTB/4 will fill out the GT field. There's an entry list for the '71 race here. Much of the film was shot at the 1970 race, but I couldn't find an entry list. Throw in a Fly SM2 Steve McQueen camera car and you're all set.

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If your kids don't need to go to college, spend their college fund on a brace of Fly racers and have at it.

I've got to admit that this film inpired me to get into slots in the first place as I could recreate the race portrayed for myself with my buddies.

Good luck with this project.
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Old 02-16-2006, 05:25 AM
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here's the finishing order, including the non finishers. note that all the ferrari 512 were the 512S CL model as by FLY. the 908/02 LH is the Flunder LH as by FLY. 917L is modeled by FLY. Ferrari 312P Coupe is available in resin, this i believe. Alfa T33/3 will soon be available from ProtoSlot though it may not be exactly the same. Matra MS 650 will soon be from ProtoSlot. Porsche 907.....don't hold your breath. ........... Pos. NO Driver

Classified:

1. 23 Hans Herrmann / D Porsche 917K 023 Porsche KG Salzburg 342 1. S 15. 3:32,600
Richard Attwood / GB
2. 3 Gérard Larrousse / F Porsche 917L 043 Martini International Racin 337 2. S 12. 3:30,800
Willy Kauhsen / D
3. 27 Rudi Lins / A Porsche 908/02 LH 050 Martini International Racin 334 1. SP 22. 3:38,900
Helmut Marko / A
4. 11 Sam Posey / USA Ferrari 512S 1014 North American Racing Team 312 3. S 13. 3:31,200
Ronnie Bucknum / USA
5. 12 Hughes de Fierlandt / B Ferrari 512S 1030 Ecurie Francorchamps 304 4. S 25. 3:40,400
Alistair Walker / GB
6. 40 Guy Chasseuil / F Porsche 914/6 Etablissement Sonauto 281 1. GTS 45. 4:30,000
Claude Ballot-Léna / F
7. 47 Erwin Kremer / D Porsche 911S Ecurie Luxembourg 281 2. GTS 43. 4:29,600
Nicolas Koob / LUX

Not classified:

2 Henri Greder / F Chevrolet Corvette Greder Racing 285 GTS 35. 4:10,500
Jean-Pierre Rouget / F
29 Herbert Linge / D Porsche 908/02 908-013 Solar Productions 282 SP 31. 4:03,700
Jonathan Williams / GB
57 Chuck Parsons / USA Ferrari 312P Coupé 0870 North American Racing Team 280 SP 28. 3:54,100
Tony Adamowicz / USA
62 René Mazzia / F Porsche 911S René Mazzia 274 GTS 46. 4:31,900
Pierre Mauroy / F
42 Guy Verrier / F Porsche 911TH Wicky Racing Team 270 GTS 49. 4:36,500
Sylvain Garant / CH
67 Jean-Claude Parot / F Porsche 911S Jacques Dechaumel 270 GTS 47. 4:35,000
Jacques Dechaumel / F
45 Claude Laurent / F Porsche 911S Claude Laurent 262 GTS 51. 4:44,000
Jacques Marché / F
64 Jean Sage / F Porsche 911S Claude Haldi/Hart Ski Racin 253 GTS 44. 4:29,600
Pierre Greub
66 Claude Sweitlik / F Porsche 911S Raymond Touroul 230 GTS 50. 4:38,100
Jean-Claude Lagniez / F

Did not finish:

34 Roger Enever / GB Healey SR Repco SR1 Donald Healey Motor Co. 262 Ignition SP 33. 4:06,000
Andrew Hedges / GB
25 Vic Elford / GB Porsche 917L 042 Porsche KG Salzburg 225 Over-revved en S 1. 3:19,800
Kurt Ahrens / D
36 Andrea de Adamich / I Alfa Romeo T33/3 ASK US Autodelta SpA 222 Piston, electr SP 19. 3:35,700
Piers Courage / GB
35 Nanni Galli / I Alfa Romeo T33/3 ASK US Autodelta SpA 220 DQ: push start SP 17. 3:33,800
Rolf Stommelen / D
49 Ian Skailes / GB Chevron B16 Ford Chevron Racing Team 213 Valve gear SP 32. 4:03,800
John Hine / GB
44 Clive Baker / GB Chevron B16 BMW DBE26 Chevron Racing Team 178 Valve spring SP 37. 4:18,800
Digby Martland / GB
65 Claude Haldi / CH Porsche 911S Claude Haldi/Hart Ski Racin 174 Gear lever GTS 39. 4:22,000
Arthur Blank / CH
61 André Wicky / CH Porsche 907 005 Wicky Racing Team 161 Stuck injectio SP 29. 3:59,600
Jean-Pierre Hanrioud / F
9 José-Maria Juncadella / E Ferrari 512S 1002 Ecsuderia Montjuich 156 Transmission d S 24. 3:39,900
Juan Fernandez / E
20 Jo Siffert / CH Porsche 917K 043 John Wyer Automotive Engine 156 Over-revved en S 3. 3:21,100
Brian Redman / GB
5 Jacky Ickx / B Ferrari 512S 1038 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 142 Accident S 6. 3:23,100
Peter Schetty / CH
63 Jacques Rey / CH Porsche 911S Rey Racing 132 Accident GTS 40. 4:23,900
Bernard Cheneviére / CH
60 Willy Meier Porsche 910 007 Guy Verrier 128 Scored discs, SP 38. 4:20,000
Daniel Rouveyran / F
46 Christian Poirot / F Porsche 910 045 Christian Poirot 120 Engine SP 36. 4:14,900
Ernst Kraus / D
18 David Piper / GB Porsche 917K 021 Team AAW 112 Accident & pun S 11. 3:29,400
Gijs van Lennep / NL
16 Corrado Manfredini / I Ferrari 512S 1022/1032 Scuderia Picchio Rosso 111 Accident damag S 16. 3:33,000
Gianpiero Moretti / I
4 Teddy Pilette / B Lola T70 Mk.3B Che SL76/146 Racing Team VDS 109 Clutch S 27. 3:46,500
Taf Gosselin / B
43 Jean-Pierre Gaban / B Porsche 911S Jean-Pierre Gaban 109 Gearbox GTS 42. 4:29,600
Willy Braillard / B
31 Henri Pescarolo / F Matra-Simca MS660 02or01 Equipe Matra Simca 79 Transmission, SP 21. 3:36,600
Jean-Pierre Beltoise / F
30 Patrick Depailler / F Matra-Simca MS650 03 Equipe Matra Simca 76 Engine SP 20. 3:36,300
Jean-Pierre Jabouille / F
32 Jack Brabham / AUS Matra-Simca MS650 01or02 Equipe Matra Simca 76 Excessive oil SP 14. 3:32,100
François Cevert / F
59 Jean Egreteaud / F Porsche 911S Jean Egreteaud 70 Engine GTS 48. 4:35,500
Jean Mésange / F
50 Guy Ligier / F Ligier JS1 Ford 01 Ecurie Intersports S.A./Aut 65 Distributor dr SP 30. 4:03,400
Jean-Claude Andruet / F
10 Helmut Kelleners / D Ferrari 512S 1018 Gelo Racing Team 54 Handling after S 18. 3:35,600
Georg Loos / D
22 Mike Hailwood / GB Porsche 917K 037 John Wyer Automotive Engine 47 Accident S 10. 3:29,100
David Hobbs / GB
38 Carlo Facetti / I Alfa Romeo T33/3 ASK US Autodelta SpA 41 Accident SP 26. 3:41,500
Teodoro Zeccoli / I
7 Derek Bell / GB Ferrari 512S 1026 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 39 Valve S 7. 3:23,400
Ronnie Peterson / S
8 Arturo Merzario / I Ferrari 512S 1034 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 38 Collision S 4. 3:21,300
Clay Regazzoni / CH
15 Herbert Müller / CH Ferrari 512S 1016 Scuderia Filipinetti 37 Collision S 8. 3:25,400
Mike Parkes / GB
1 Joseph Bourdon / F Chevrolet Corvette Ecurie Léopard 37 Accident GTS 34. 4:07,200
Jean-Claude Aubriet / F
14 Jo Bonnier / S Ferrari 512S 1008 Scuderia Filipinetti 36 Collision S 9. 3:28,700
Reine Wisell / S
21 Pedro Rodriguez / MEX Porsche 917K 044 John Wyer Automotive Engine 22 Cooling fine d S 5. 3:21,900
Leo Kinnunen / SF
48 Yves Deprez / B Chevron B16 Mazda DBE14 Levi's International Racing 19 Engine SP 41. 4:24,200
Julian Vernaeve / B
6 Ignazio Giunti / I Ferrari 512S 1044 SpA Ferrari SEFAC 7 Bearings S 2. 3:20,000
Nino Vaccarella / I
37 Masten Gregory / USA Alfa Romeo T33/3 ASK US Autodelta SpA 4 Piston due to SP 23. 3:39,000
Toine Hezemans / NL

Did not start:

24 Rico Steinemann / CH Porsche 917K 020 Porsche KG Salzburg Withdrawn
Dieter Spoerry / CH
Vic Elford / GB
Kurt Ahrens / D
28 Dieter Spoerry / CH Porsche 908/02 Martini International Racin Accident in pr
André de Cortanze / F
39 Tony Adamowicz / USA Ferrari 312P Coupé 0872 North American Racing Team Spare car
Chuck Parsons / USA

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Old 02-16-2006, 05:30 AM
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Eno Dog - Depends on how "pretty & perfect" you want them? If you want to go on the cheap and don't mind doing some modifying with a Dremel, razor saw, epoxy/hot glue, and some brass tubing...

Decals for these cars can be had from Patto's for $10 a sheet. For a chassis/running gear I suggest a "white" Scalextric Dallara at $18...easily modified for wheelbase /track. For bodies, I believe you can find many of them in "clear" to give you a nice starting grid.

With some paint and tubing added you can make one for under $40 (the decal's cost hurts). The Dallara is an excellent handling car and with a clear body it'll be faster than a Fly or Slot.It.

If the wheelbase /track for the various prototype bodies match up or if you're planning a couple of the same of each, another $$$'s saver is to just swap bodies around to make "new cars"...only can run so many at one time.

I know some will recommend the TRSF or HRS chassis, but both are more expensive and my Dallara based cars have no trouble staying with them in the turns.

By the way, you may want to hold off watching "Grand Prix" until you get this field completed.

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Old 02-16-2006, 06:09 AM
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I made one of them so far using a Pattos body and Pattos decals. The bodies are not very detailed unfortunately but it depends on what you want to use these cars for. If I look at the body fairly closely I can easily see it's not a Fly but on the track it looks fine.

I also modified the rear of the Pattos a bit and it is mounted on a TSRF chassis, although I couldn't bring myself to put holes in the body so I added styrene tabs to the sides and screwed it to the chassis.



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Old 02-17-2006, 08:03 AM
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i know that on first glance the fly cars seem dear . but consider the cost of making them ie paint. lacuer .decals. body . chassis. wheels. tyres. engine. guide .wires. and sundries .and they begin to look a lot more of an easier option but if youre going to biuld your own good luck and lets see saome progress shots .
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:04 AM
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don't rule out the RTR versions just yet..... Vols use of the scalex chassis could help save money.............. but you may be looking at several cars....... and several modified chassis'............. and i'll bet most of the cars just won't look right with the chrome wheels of the Dallara......... will say that use of either TSRF or slot-it HRS chassis will likely make total cost higher than RTR. .........
with some shopping and dealing those RTR cars may look better and better
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Old 02-17-2006, 10:29 AM
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Simple answer, Popsicle sticks.
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Old 02-17-2006, 11:47 AM
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The white Dallara has "silver" wheels and easily painted black to hide their more contemporary appearance...



If you want everything "correct" then paying for the Fly's is the least expensive way to go, but on the cheap...

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Old 02-17-2006, 01:18 PM
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Cool Say what..?!?!

What's this about no Lola T70 bodies out there?!?
Do you mean no hard-bodies at all? Or maybe that they cost a lot...?
I do pretend to get myself one of those, so now you guys got me effing worried!!!

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Old 02-17-2006, 01:24 PM
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"... The Lola T70 that does multiple spins in the film will be almost as tricky to find as a Fly Gulf 917..."
Yo!!! What are you saying there?!?!
Does that mean the Lola T70 is a rare car!?!
I'd love to have one of those (SUNOCO paint scheme, if possible), so now you've got me worried...!!!

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Old 02-17-2006, 01:44 PM
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If you don't mind clear, Betta offers these from that period...

1966 FERRARI 330 P4
1966 FORD GT40
1968 MATRA 630
1969 FERRARI 312P
1969 LOLA T70 MK3
1969 PORCHE 917 LANGHECK
1970 GULF PORCHE 917
1971 PENSKE FERRARI 512 GT


...that should make for a nice starting grid - and if not - Patto's can further fill the field...how's about a 1967 Homwet or a Mark IV to begin with


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