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    Hi Guys,

    My friend and I got into Carrera D124 a few years ago. We are continually expanding our track and collection of cars and we are working on getting some of our friends roped into the hobby as well. We both used to race RC cars together and the further we get into this hobby the more we want to tune our slot cars like we did with our RC cars. We've been a little disappointed in the lack of tuning you can do to the Carrera cars, so we've been shopping around for alternative chassis and cars. We've even considered designing and building our own chassis. Recently, I came across the Scale Auto Home series and GT3 chassis cars. They both sounds like they are great performing chassis, but we are liking the GT3 chassis due to the extra tuning and customizing capabilities and the fact that it just looks awesome. That being said, I was wondering if you could answer some questions we have on these cars.

    1. Is it possible to put a Carrera digital chip in the GT3 chassis?

    2. If we add a Carrera decoder chip can we run these cars on a Carrera track with the Carrera power supply? The Carrera 124 track is 18 V. Or would we need to get an external power supply that runs at a lower voltage? Maybe use a Carrera D132 power supply?

    3. Can the gearing be changed in these cars? What are the options for gearing changes? Are there fixed combinations of pinion and spur that should be used or is it possible to slide the motor and adjust the pinion and spur gear mesh for whatever combination of pinion and spur that you choose?

    4. Can ball bearings be added in place of the bushings front and rear on the Home Series?

    5. Is the ride height adjustable? Both front and back?

    6. It appears the area the motor sits (pod?) can be removed and replaced. Is it possible to add another motor pod and change to an angle winder or inline configuration?

    7. Can the Carrera D124 digital decoder chip fit in the Home series chassis or, is it just the D132 chip that is smaller?

    8. Are there other options besides the Carrera decoder chip that has the same functionality? What are they?

    Thanks in advance. I'm excited to be a new member here. I hope to learn a lot reading everyone's posts.

    Frank
    Last edited by Yama-Bro; 01-09-2021, 08:11 AM.

  • #2
    Some good questions there.

    Welcome to SCI!

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    • #3
      Thanks! I'm itching to buy one of these chassis, they look so cool.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Yama-Bro View Post
        Hi Guys,

        My friend and I got into Carrera D124 a few years ago. We are continually expanding our track and collection of cars and we are working on getting some of our friends roped into the hobby as well. We both used to race RC cars together and the further we get into this hobby the more we want to tune our slot cars like we did with our RC cars. We've been a little disappointed in the lack of tuning you can do to the Carrera cars, so we've been shopping around for alternative chassis and cars. We've even considered designing and building our own chassis. Recently, I came across the Scale Auto Home series and RT3 chassis cars. They both sounds like they are great performing chassis, but we are liking the RT3 chassis due to the extra tuning and customizing capabilities and the fact that it just looks awesome. That being said, I was wondering if you could answer some questions we have on these cars.

        1. Is it possible to put a Carrera digital chip in the RT3 chassis?

        Yes we have drilled the SC-8000 type chassis to fit Carrera Digital chips.
        We used the 1:32 chip.


        2. If we add a Carrera decoder chip can we run these cars on a Carrera track with the Carrera power supply? The Carrera 124 track is 18 V. Or would we need to get an external power supply that runs at a lower voltage? Maybe use a Carrera D132 power supply?

        You can run on 18 volts but as these cars come fitted with motors to run on 13.2 volts they will be fast on 18 volts. We sell adjustable supplies that may be a good solution so you can change voltage for different cars

        3. Can the gearing be changed in these cars? What are the options for gearing changes? Are there fixed combinations of pinion and spur that should be used or is it possible to slide the motor and adjust the pinion and spur gear mesh for whatever combination of pinion and spur that you choose?

        On the SC-8000 type chassis you can adjust the motor position to set gear mesh This means many ratio options can be used.

        4. Can ball bearings be added in place of the bushings front and rear on the Home Series?

        Yes you can replace the bushing with either Scakeauto or BRM ball bearing both are in stock at our Store www.132slotcar.us

        5. Is the ride height adjustable? Both front and back?

        On the SC-8000 type chassis you can adjust both front and rear axle heights by changing the axle supports ( uprights )

        6. It appears the area the motor sits (pod?) can be removed and replaced. Is it possible to add another motor pod and change to an angle winder or inline configuration?

        It is possible to modify both plastic and metal chassis and motor mounts.

        The metal chassis has more options. But changing to inline while possible would require a lot of modifications. You can change to a floating pod design and can run sprung pods, 4 x 4 drive, drop arms etc on some variations.

        7. Can the Carrera D124 digital decoder chip fit in the Home series chassis or, is it just the D132 chip that is smaller?

        They are designed for the D132 chip. I am sure you could fit the bigger D124 chip buy not sure why you would want to.

        8. Are there other options besides the Carrera decoder chip that has the same functionality? What are they?

        You can use the Slot.it Universal chip.

        There are other chips also available. But at this time we use either Slot it or Carrera D132 chip

        We have been the Importer of Scaleauto for many years and carry 1000's of their spares and cars in stock. Both Home Series and SC-8000 and SC-8003 versions of the metal chassis and cars and all available spares.



        Thanks in advance. I'm excited to be a new member here. I hope to learn a lot reading everyone's posts.

        Frank
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        • #5
          Can't help with a lot of the tuning stuff, as I leave my Scale Auto 124 cars stock. But, I can say that I've put a D132 chip into my ScaleAuto Audi R8, the original all metal chassis, and ran it around on my D132 track, and it's an absolute blast. I'd recommend getting the D132 power supply, or a bench PSU with variable voltage. ScaleAuto cars would be way too overpowered by the 18v PSU meant for the slower D124 cars.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the replies guys!

            ScaleRacing, you mentioned the SC-8000 chassis, I was leaning towards the GT3 (sorry, I typed that wrong chassis # above and now corrected it). Do all your comments still apply to the GT3 as they did with the SC-8000? As I understand it, the GT3 is the newer and more advanced of the two.

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            • #7
              The SC-8003 is actually simpler than the SC-8000 Yes the front section is sprung, but not as adjustable.

              You can fit the Slot.it Universal Digital Chip to either chassis and by using extention lead fit the optical eye to the lower chassis plate and the electronic to the body.
              Alan Smith
              SCI Owner.
              www.scaleracing.com
              www.slotcarillustrated.com
              www.facebook.com/scaleracingcenter
              www.132slotcar.us

              1-253-255-1807

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Yama-Bro View Post
                Hi Guys,

                My friend and I got into Carrera D124 a few years ago. We are continually expanding our track and collection of cars and we are working on getting some of our friends roped into the hobby as well. We both used to race RC cars together and the further we get into this hobby the more we want to tune our slot cars like we did with our RC cars. We've been a little disappointed in the lack of tuning you can do to the Carrera cars, so we've been shopping around for alternative chassis and cars. We've even considered designing and building our own chassis. Recently, I came across the Scale Auto Home series and GT3 chassis cars. They both sounds like they are great performing chassis, but we are liking the GT3 chassis due to the extra tuning and customizing capabilities and the fact that it just looks awesome. That being said, I was wondering if you could answer some questions we have on these cars.

                1. Is it possible to put a Carrera digital chip in the GT3 chassis?

                2. If we add a Carrera decoder chip can we run these cars on a Carrera track with the Carrera power supply? The Carrera 124 track is 18 V. Or would we need to get an external power supply that runs at a lower voltage? Maybe use a Carrera D132 power supply?

                3. Can the gearing be changed in these cars? What are the options for gearing changes? Are there fixed combinations of pinion and spur that should be used or is it possible to slide the motor and adjust the pinion and spur gear mesh for whatever combination of pinion and spur that you choose?

                4. Can ball bearings be added in place of the bushings front and rear on the Home Series?

                5. Is the ride height adjustable? Both front and back?

                6. It appears the area the motor sits (pod?) can be removed and replaced. Is it possible to add another motor pod and change to an angle winder or inline configuration?

                7. Can the Carrera D124 digital decoder chip fit in the Home series chassis or, is it just the D132 chip that is smaller?

                8. Are there other options besides the Carrera decoder chip that has the same functionality? What are they?

                Thanks in advance. I'm excited to be a new member here. I hope to learn a lot reading everyone's posts.

                Frank
                Have you used the RMS-124 motors in your D124 cars? They will more than double the speed of your otherwise stock D124 cars. Using the RMS -124 motor with some upgraded urethane tires will have you turning much faster lap times. I assume you've already done that, but thought I'd mention it.

                Alan is the guru for Scaleauto so he knows pretty much everything about tunability. We grabbed some BRM Transam cars and dropped the D132 chips right in. They are a blast and easy to tune. They can be tuned too, but also run great right out of the box. You can find them at Scaleracing too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by carlosinseattle View Post

                  Have you used the RMS-124 motors in your D124 cars? They will more than double the speed of your otherwise stock D124 cars. Using the RMS -124 motor with some upgraded urethane tires will have you turning much faster lap times. I assume you've already done that, but thought I'd mention it.

                  Alan is the guru for Scaleauto so he knows pretty much everything about tunability. We grabbed some BRM Transam cars and dropped the D132 chips right in. They are a blast and easy to tune. They can be tuned too, but also run great right out of the box. You can find them at Scaleracing too.
                  I've never heard of the RMS-124. I will have to check those out. Thanks for the heads up on those. We are currently running urethane tires. They make a huge difference. I'm thinking about buying one of the BRM Camaros or Mustangs too!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Yama-Bro View Post

                    ......... I'm thinking about buying one of the BRM Camaros or Mustangs too!
                    Those are some great fun cars!!! The BRM cars drive differently from the D124 cars. They seem more suited to club racing than home racing, but they worked great on my home D124 track. You'll be pleased with either decision.

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                    • #11
                      Frank maybe call me direct regarding tuning on Scaleauto. They can run ball bearings in the rear. Front axle height is adjustable.
                      the pod section you are seeing is to add the sprung pod feature if you want it.

                      All available from my Store.

                      Call sometime to discuss.

                      The BRM Trans Am cars are not actually BRM they are ScaleRacing/BRM and each car is built to order.

                      They are great on home tracks but if running the Carrera stock 18 Volts supply may be way too fast. We can fit a milder motor for you. Carrera chip fits right on the chassis by design.

                      We also sell a great 0 - 30 Volt 10 amp adjustable power supply for Digital and Analog tracks.

                      I do not recommend running above the 18 bolts Carrera use, and for most cars 12 volts is plenty.

                      Also might be best to focus posts about Scaleuto and ScaleRacing / BRM to those sections of my Forum.

                      Cheers


                      Last edited by Scaleracing; 02-16-2021, 03:37 PM.
                      Alan Smith
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