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    Well I'm a dyed in the wool Ortmann man, so it was with great skepticism that I put a pair of PPR tires for Fly Classic on the back of my Jager Fly 911 and picked up the controller. I'd seen these tires not work at all on a certain Revell track that I race on . After a number of laps and tire cleanings (track's a little dusty) I was impressed with the performance of these tires! They exhibited good slide vs. roll out characteristics. The are very concentric (I can't say that about Ortmann's for Fly Classic). The car isn't the fastest of cars but these tires worked very, very well on my wood track. Sometimes Ortmann's can be a bit too grippy on my track, but these slide when they should, and gripped when they should.

    Will I be getting rid of my Ortmann's? No. But I think I will include some PPR's when I make my next trip to NJ Nostalgia Hobby.8o

    DK

    And yes, Sweet Z28 those are the one's you sent Rob...they've gotten around.

  • #2
    I second your experience, Dave. Though, I have only used PPRs on plastic tracks. I have experimented with all the other brands too, with a mix on the cars I now race. But, for my money the PPRs are the best driving tire around. They are very fast and controllable. I make that distinction too, so the debate about sidewall appearance, etc. can be avoided.

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    • #3
      Welcome to the dark side :evil

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      • #4
        Welcome to the dark side
        And all this time I thought the dark side, the river Styx, was magnets.

        Sheesh, live and lean.

        Magnets and PPR, the Devils brew?

        for 007...
        The devil got the moonshine and the mountain boy the night....

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        • #5
          "Magnets and PPR, the Devils brew?"


          Absolutely.







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          • #6
            That's some crazy chassis, did you do that LS?

            DK

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            • #7
              Thanks Guy's
              On the sidwall of the tires when doing lots of testing i found no gain in performance by having a rounded tire wall... once your tire is run and turns dull looking it will work beautifully the tires edge will get naturally worn in.
              LS what a beauty!!
              Man now i want to race them suckers on my track again!

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              • #8
                I recently got my first set of the new Indy Grips. On the same car, in the same lane of the upstairs track at Archer Raceways, they are .2 of a second slower vs. well used PPRs after a half hour test session. It is possible they will get faster still, but I think my PPRs are still definitely my A tires.

                Oh and Steve, the difference between your tires with the sharp edges, and when I round off the edges of the PPRs is as much as half a second a lap. The predictability in cornering is so much better that you can push the car much harder.

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                • #9
                  Bluetoes is right. Round both the outside and inside edges of your Super Tires for best results. The car will slide and not trip over the unrounded edges.
                  Dan
                  Ace Hobby Racing
                  Nick's Super Tires

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                  • #10
                    :rolleyes when i did tests i did not see that much of a difference.. But then again it depends i guess if you run a brand new pair of super tires you may want to dull the edges up but i find a used pair that gets dull and worn naturally works the same.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks to Z28 for the tires 13DaveK has been testing.

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                      • #12
                        How do you round the edges of the PPRs, I thought they were tough as nails?

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                        • #13
                          How do you round the edges of the PPRs, I thought they were tough as nails?
                          Persistence and sandpaper.

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                          • #14
                            No doubt about it, these are most excellent tires; their square edge appearance is a bit offputting [real sidewalls don't look like that] and they certainly do need profiling unless you enjoy watching your car flip over sideways instead of drifting a bit. And, as Milo says, this needs persistence. I used drywall sandpaper, and was still astonished at how much work it took to get them into functional shape.

                            They are probably the grippiest and fastest tires I have come across, though.

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                            • #15
                              Guys try using emery cloth sand paper this works well for the edges.
                              Try 80grit and go up in grit once you get the edges off.

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