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  • New to Slotcars! Track building help please :)

    Hi there! Newcomer to slot cars. Bought a Carrera GO for my 4 year old. And then the floodgates opened!

    Bought a Retro Race DRM (Carrera Digital 132); have an AppConnect dongle on order as well as a Slot.It R18 AWD. Bought a ton of extensions, as I wanted to try 1:24 scale as well, but decided to stick with 1:32 for now.

    I built the track as it is shown on the Retro Race DRM box and... I am bored of it already. It has a silly curved raised section that takes up a lot of space and leaves room for nothing else.

    Specifics:

    I can get more pieces, that’s no problem.

    The space I am utilizing is 11x8.5.

    I am sticking to 132 scale.

    I have the following pieces currently: 11 standard straights; 10 1/60 curves; 1 double lane changer; I can always get more.

    Questions:

    What are some interesting track layouts that I can build? Do you all have any favorite layouts which can work for me given my space constraints?

    Also, when it comes to Carrera Digital 132/124, does it make more sense to purchase sets or pieces individually? (This sounds like a stupid question but thought I’d ask, since I am a beginner)
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  • #2
    Google is your friend -

    Here's one place to look and dream a bit for track layouts -
    https://www.google.com/search?source...w=1628&bih=937

    Have fun

    Mike

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    • #3
      Another track set might make sense if you need more cars and electronics (including lane changer). It's handy to have a second transformer and power section to program cars before placing them on the track. A full set probably isn't a good purchase if you just want more of the plain plastic track. Remember that the 124 sets include curve borders, which are a significant extra cost for 132 sets.

      Design rules for Carrera Digital:

      Put a full straight length before any sensor track (pit lane entry, lap counter, lane changer).

      The last lane changer before pit entry should be a single changer that switches to the lane of the pit entry, not a double changer. This avoids unintentional lane changes away from the pit entry.

      124 requires border pieces and its own 18V transformer.

      Design guidelines:

      Be aware of how Carrera packages its corner pieces. Corners and borders are sold in 180 degree packages (either 3 60-degree, 6 30-degree, or 12 15-degree pieces), so it's difficult to get a smaller number of pieces than a full package to complete a design.

      Place bridges over the beginning of straights; avoid covering curves and ends of straights.

      If you have multiple curve radius sizes on hand, you can combine them in a continuous curve to create freeform shapes or to make track ends line up to complete the circuit design. Small adjustments to make the ends line up can be made by swapping adjacent curve pieces that use different radius.

      Avoid track designs that require reaching much more than 3 feet into the layout from the edge of the table. You might run a straight track through such an area, but avoid placing curves in that area.

      Carrera curve pieces are identified by radius (or K for kurve) and degrees. For example, the curves in your set are identified as 1/60; Radius 1, 60 degrees.
      There are four available radius sizes: (smallest) 1, 2, 3, 4 (largest). The different radius sizes nest together to build a 4 lane, 6 lane, or 8 lane track. You can also nest two radius sizes together and run a 2 lane track through the center lanes, which leave the inside and outside track lanes as borders.
      Last edited by thatguy01; 05-25-2020, 10:07 PM.

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      • #4
        'Embiggen'.

        I like that. The synonym, of course, is ensmallen.

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        • #5
          It's a perfectly cromulent word, Paul.

          Is there an easy way to make pictures post enfullsized? I haven't been able to do that since the Great Enupgrade.

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          • #6
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            • #7
              Darn it. This layout breaks a basic rule of layout design--don't make a loop the same direction inside another loop--but I can't delete it.

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              • #8
                But then again, perhaps digital racing has made that rule redundant. Lane choice, and length, become a matter of driver choice.

                After all, the drivers choose which lane they're in, at least twice in a lap from your diagram.

                Incidentally, 'ensmallen' is actually a word. Probably even Homer knows that. homersimpson.gif

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                • #9
                  Flat alternative.

                  The green area is 11x8.5. The blue area is at least 3 feet from any side. Border pieces aren't included in this part list.

                  This track is approximately 50 feet long. I recommend connecting jumper wires directly from the transformer connector track to each lane changer.

                  This design shows a pit lane and extra lane changers. It doesn't show any other digital track features you might want to add, such as intermediate lap timing.

                  Pieces:
                  • Transformer connector track: 1
                  • Standard Straight: 10
                  • 1/4 straight: 2 (20612 box of 2)
                  • 1/3 straight: 1 (20611 box of 2)
                  • Radius 1/60 degree curve: 9 (included in set)
                  • 2/30 curve: 6 (20572 box of 6)
                  • 3/30 curve: 6 (20573 box of 6
                  • 4/15 curve: 12 (20578 box of 12)
                  • Double lane change: 2 (30347)
                  • Lane Change Curve, Right (Out to In):1 (30365; includes straight switch track and curved end track)
                  • Pit Lane set: 1 (30356; includes entry and exit track pieces plus 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane)
                  The design shows blank space for the straight pit lane; 3 more straight pieces are needed to fill it. The pit lane set includes 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane. You can buy more single lane straights (30341) or fill the space with standard two-lane straights. You can saw a standard two-lane straight lengthwise to make 2 usable single-lane straight pieces.

                  Click picture to unsmallen.
                  carrera new flat.gif
                  Last edited by thatguy01; 05-26-2020, 08:49 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wet Coast Racer View Post
                    But then again, perhaps digital racing has made that rule redundant. Lane choice, and length, become a matter of driver choice.

                    After all, the drivers choose which lane they're in, at least twice in a lap from your diagram.
                    [/ATTACH]
                    Nope. People seem to think that, but I've come to the conclusion that the opposite is true. BECAUSE people can choose their lane, it's even MORE important that the lanes are equal. Why? Because everyone will choose the short lane, of course. And when you have a couple guys that can actually race each other, you end up in a situation where the one(s) behind are just waiting for the one in front to screw up because getting into the long lane to try to make a pass is an exercise in futility. As soon as you do, you start to lose ground, not make ground. So, you end up pulling back into the slow lane and hoping for the best.

                    When the lanes are equal, at least you have a fighting chance.

                    Of course, when there is a wide disparity between racer skill and car quality, it doesn't matter... which tends to be the case for a while, unless you're as lucky as me with skilled digital racers to compete against.

                    So yeah... it matters... but only when it matters. LOL

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                    • #11
                      carrera equal length overpass.gif Equal length overpass circuit.

                      The green area is 11x8.5. The blue area is at least 3 feet from any side. Border pieces aren't included in this part list.

                      This track is approximately 60 feet long. I recommend connecting jumper wires directly from the transformer connector track to each lane changer.

                      This design shows a pit lane and extra lane changers. It doesn't show any other digital track features you might want to add, such as intermediate lap timing.

                      Pieces:
                      • Transformer connector track: 1
                      • Standard Straight: 12
                      • 1/4 straight: 2 (20612 box of 2)
                      • 1/3 straight: 2 (20611 box of 2)
                      • Radius 1/60 degree curve: 9 (included in set)
                      • 2/30 curve: 6 (20572 box of 6)
                      • 3/30 curve: 6 (20573 box of 6
                      • 4/15 curve: 8 (20578 box of 12)
                      • Double lane change: 2 (30347)
                      • Lane Change Curve, Right (Out to In):1 (30365; includes straight switch track and curved end track)
                      • Pit Lane set: 1 (30356; includes entry and exit track pieces plus 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane)
                      The design shows blank space for the straight pit lane; 3 more straight pieces are needed to fill it. The pit lane set includes 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane. You can buy more single lane straights (30341) or fill the space with standard two-lane straights. You can saw a standard two-lane straight lengthwise to make 2 usable single-lane straight pieces.



                      Last edited by thatguy01; 05-26-2020, 10:52 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Another equal length overpass circuit. This design features a long curving infield section that doesn't slow down for R1/60 curves, which should be exciting to drive. This design requires 12 R2 curves (2 boxes).

                        The green area is 11x8.5. The blue area is at least 3 feet from any side. Border pieces aren't included in this part list.

                        This track is approximately 60 feet long. I recommend connecting jumper wires directly from the transformer connector track to each lane changer.

                        This design shows a pit lane and extra lane changers. It doesn't show any other digital track features you might want to add, such as intermediate lap timing.

                        Pieces:
                        • Transformer connector track: 1
                        • Standard Straight: 12
                        • 1/4 straight: 2 (20612 box of 2)
                        • 1/3 straight: 2 (20611 box of 2)
                        • Radius 1/60 degree curve: 7 (included in set)
                        • 2/30 curve: 12 (20572 box of 6; 2 boxes required)
                        • 3/30 curve:5 (20573 box of 6)
                        • 4/15 curve: 8 (20578 box of 12)
                        • Double lane change: 2 (30347)
                        • Lane Change Curve, Right (Out to In):1 (30365; includes straight switch track and curved end track)
                        • Pit Lane set: 1 (30356; includes entry and exit track pieces plus 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane)
                        The design shows blank space for the straight pit lane; 3 more straight pieces are needed to fill it. The pit lane set includes 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane. You can buy more single lane straights (30341) or fill the space with standard two-lane straights. You can saw a standard two-lane straight lengthwise to make 2 usable single-lane straight pieces.


                        carrera equal length overpass 2 boxes R2.gif

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                        • #13
                          Another flat alternative. This has a smoother, faster infield section with fewer R1/60 curves. This requires 11 R2 curves (2 boxes of 6).

                          The green area is 11x8.5. The blue area is at least 3 feet from any side. Border pieces aren't included in this part list.

                          This track is approximately 50 feet long. I recommend connecting jumper wires directly from the transformer connector track to each lane changer.

                          This design shows a pit lane and extra lane changers. It doesn't show any other digital track features you might want to add, such as intermediate lap timing.

                          Pieces:
                          • Transformer connector track: 1
                          • Standard Straight: 11
                          • 1/3 straight: 1 (20611 box of 2)
                          • Radius 1/60 degree curve: 7 (included in set)
                          • 2/30 curve:11 (20572 box of 6)
                          • 3/30 curve: 5 (20573 box of 6
                          • 4/15 curve: 8 (20578 box of 12)
                          • Double lane change: 2 (30347)
                          • Lane Change Curve, Right (Out to In):1 (30365; includes straight switch track and curved end track)
                          • Pit Lane set: 1 (30356; includes entry and exit track pieces plus 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane)
                          The design shows blank space for the straight pit lane; 3 more straight pieces are needed to fill it. The pit lane set includes 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane. You can buy more single lane straights (30341) or fill the space with standard two-lane straights. You can saw a standard two-lane straight lengthwise to make 2 usable single-lane straight pieces.



                          carrera flat 2 boxes R2.gif

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by thatguy01 View Post
                            Another equal length overpass circuit. This design features a long curving infield section that doesn't slow down for R1/60 curves, which should be exciting to drive. This design requires 12 R2 curves (2 boxes).

                            The green area is 11x8.5. The blue area is at least 3 feet from any side. Border pieces aren't included in this part list.

                            This track is approximately 60 feet long. I recommend connecting jumper wires directly from the transformer connector track to each lane changer.

                            This design shows a pit lane and extra lane changers. It doesn't show any other digital track features you might want to add, such as intermediate lap timing.

                            Pieces:
                            • Transformer connector track: 1
                            • Standard Straight: 12
                            • 1/4 straight: 2 (20612 box of 2)
                            • 1/3 straight: 2 (20611 box of 2)
                            • Radius 1/60 degree curve: 7 (included in set)
                            • 2/30 curve: 12 (20572 box of 6; 2 boxes required)
                            • 3/30 curve:5 (20573 box of 6)
                            • 4/15 curve: 8 (20578 box of 12)
                            • Double lane change: 2 (30347)
                            • Lane Change Curve, Right (Out to In):1 (30365; includes straight switch track and curved end track)
                            • Pit Lane set: 1 (30356; includes entry and exit track pieces plus 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane)
                            The design shows blank space for the straight pit lane; 3 more straight pieces are needed to fill it. The pit lane set includes 1 single-lane straight for the pit lane. You can buy more single lane straights (30341) or fill the space with standard two-lane straights. You can saw a standard two-lane straight lengthwise to make 2 usable single-lane straight pieces.


                            carrera equal length overpass 2 boxes R2.gif
                            thatguy01 You are amazing! I have been collecting all the pieces! This last iteration is my absolute favorite! I have to ask, what do you mean by “transformer connected track”. Is that the Carrera Digital Control Unit where the wired controllers and the power is connected?

                            Furthermore, what does it mean to connect “jumper wires from the transformer connector track to lane changer”? Is that a necessary step?

                            should I get the 18V transformer?

                            I am sure these may sound incredibly stupid questions haha

                            anyway, I have to say, this is by far the most helpful, and engaging internet community I have come across in a long while. Thank you all for being here and representing this lovely hobby! As I learn more, I hope to contribute as well. Cheers!

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                            • #15
                              Yes, the transformer connects to the digital control unit.

                              Jumper wires connect from a track piece (usually the transformer connection section) directly to a remote point on the track without going through the many track joints. When track power goes through a joint (esp the press fit joints of sectional track) there is a power loss (voltage drop). A wire connection directly to a remote point on the track eliminates the power loss of the joints to that point. Technically, the most voltage drop now is about halfway between each of the jumper points, and is much less than the maximum voltage drop of an unjumpered track.

                              You can buy premade jumper wires with metal tips, or just use plain stranded wire like paired speaker wire and strip a couple of inches of insulation from the ends. There are big spaces under the track where you can stuff jumper wires into the rails, and maybe secure the wire in place with tape or hot glue. With a digital track you only need to be careful about connecting the same rail with the wire (positive to positive, negative to negative) instead of worrying about also connecting to a specific lane.

                              For easier maintenance I would connect the jumper to the plain track piece adjacent to the switch or the transformer connection. You're unlikely to ever need to repair/replace a piece of plain track.

                              Here's an installation video from a company that sells premade jumper wires.



                              The 18V transformer is a good thing for D124, because the cars are heavier and can use the extra power.
                              Last edited by thatguy01; 05-27-2020, 01:37 AM.

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