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    In the thread about activity on the forum I said that I am serious about doing some more posting on SCI. As the saying goes: talk is cheap, money buys the whiskey. So this is me, buying a small tot of whiskey...

    One of the comments in the above thread was about the departure of proxies form the forum. And I must say proxies are near and dear to my heart. As an aside: sort of funny that. I say proxies are near and dear to my heart, so why is that I perform so spectacularly mediocrely in proxies? Oh well, just goes to show: you do not necessarily have to be good at something to enjoy doing it....

    In any case: As is my wont, I have again this year entered into the GT3 proxy. And yes: as per typical for me, I performed mediocrely in last year's series, ending 12th out of 27 entrants. And so this year (like every other year...) I said I MUST do better. Sort of reminds me of Pinky & the Brain: "What do you want to do today Brain?" "Same as every night Pinky, try to take over the world."

    But here I am, a month before the cars have to be in Kelowna... and I am still figuring out what to do. About 10 days ago, in order to help me figure out what I was gong to do for this year's series, I took nine... yes, you read that right: count them, NINE... sort of eligible cars to our club track to see what they performed like. And true to my normal results, my car from last year was not very good. But one of my other cars was sort of nice. But the best car I had there (and which improved the track lap record by almost 1/10th of a second...) was only partly legal!

    What IS a man to do???

    So: the strategy is:

    * Try to improve my second-best car as this seems to be the most likely candidate for final entry in the race.
    * But: as a Hail Mary, how about trying to make the semi-legal car fully legal?

    I found the second option particularly intriguing. And yes, trust me to want to do things the hard way! But this is an exercise that I have now embarked on. I have had to enlist the support of some "specialists":

    * I have had to "persuade" one of our club members to do some CNC machining for me. This machining has now been done (Thanks Roger!)
    * I have ordered some very specific part from Alan. As always, Alan was hugely helpful as one of the parts was not readily available. But as always, he came through and the parts are now on their way. From Tacoma to Vancouver. And yet, USPS now shows the parts in San Francisco. Tacoma to Vancouver via San Francisco??!! What next, Miami? Oh well....

    And I have started work on my mutant car. I am NOT going to reveal everything yet: I want to keep SOME things secret before the start of the proxy. So I will gradually reveal more and more of what I have been doing as I do it and as we get closer to the start of the proxy. For now: a mock up of what the backup contender to go to the proxy looks like:

    image1.jpg

    More to come in the fullness of time....

    Alwyn

  • #2
    The Gr5 Proxy used to live here, it was the reason I came here so often, let's hope the GT3 guys come back.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SuperSlab View Post
      ...But here I am, a month before the cars have to be in Kelowna... and I am still figuring out what to do. About 10 days ago, in order to help me figure out what I was gong to do for this year's series, I took nine... yes, you read that right: count them, NINE... sort of eligible cars to our club track to see what they performed like. And true to my normal results, my car from last year was not very good. But one of my other cars was sort of nice. But the best car I had there (and which improved the track lap record by almost 1/10th of a second...) was only partly legal!

      What IS a man to do???

      So: the strategy is:

      * Try to improve my second-best car as this seems to be the most likely candidate for final entry in the race.
      * But: as a Hail Mary, how about trying to make the semi-legal car fully legal?

      I found the second option particularly intriguing. And yes, trust me to want to do things the hard way! But this is an exercise that I have now embarked on. I have had to enlist the support of some "specialists":

      * I have had to "persuade" one of our club members to do some CNC machining for me. This machining has now been done (Thanks Roger!)
      * I have ordered some very specific part from Alan. As always, Alan was hugely helpful as one of the parts was not readily available. But as always, he came through and the parts are now on their way. From Tacoma to Vancouver. And yet, USPS now shows the parts in San Francisco. Tacoma to Vancouver via San Francisco??!! What next, Miami? Oh well....

      And I have started work on my mutant car. I am NOT going to reveal everything yet: I want to keep SOME things secret before the start of the proxy. So I will gradually reveal more and more of what I have been doing as I do it and as we get closer to the start of the proxy. For now: a mock up of what the backup contender to go to the proxy looks like:

      More to come in the fullness of time....

      Alwyn
      The car looks Great!! Thanks for sharing, I can't wait to read what's been done to it!

      I just recently took out of storage this Vette and Viper and was surprised to see them with front mounted motors. I bet if yours is anything like these it took a lot to get to run great!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by dinglebery View Post
        I just recently took out of storage this Vette and Viper and was surprised to see them with front mounted motors. I bet if yours is anything like these it took a lot to get to run great!
        Fly went to great lengths to produce accurate scale race cars, and of course that included motor orientation that was equivalent to the 1:1 original.

        So the Marcos, Panoz, and others also had front motors.

        Making these things work well on the track (particularly without magnets) has proven an interesting challenge for many tuners.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dinglebery View Post
          The car looks Great!! Thanks for sharing, I can't wait to read what's been done to it!

          I just recently took out of storage this Vette and Viper and was surprised to see them with front mounted motors. I bet if yours is anything like these it took a lot to get to run great!
          Ah yes, I AM a bit of a masochist when it comes to competitions, but even I am not sufficiently brave (stupid perhaps? ) to attempt to get a front engined Fly to be competitive in the GT3 proxy! This proxy is one of the fastest out here and the competition is FIERCE! Some of the cars in this proxy have to be driven to really understand how incredibly good both plastic and scratch built metal chassis cars can be.

          I started out with something much better and much faster and even so: if after everything I do to it I end up in the top 10 I would be deliriously happy! Make that both astounded and happy!

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          • #6
            And just to give some perspective on what the standard is in this proxy: I did the following to my Scaleauto Corvette for last year's series:

            * Replaced the pod with a Slot.it sidewinder pod. Used the one with the single flanged bushings for added stiffness
            * NSR Shark 28K motor
            * Ensured both the chassis and pod were perfectly flat. Fettled the pod and chassis to ensure good clearance for float.
            * 17 x 13 CB Design Racing wheels with NSR Ultragrips glued, trued & polished.
            * CB Design 17 x 8 Racing wheels on the front
            * Slot.it 19 x 10 Zero grip tyres. Trued & profiled, coated with clear nail varnish and polished
            * Smooth shank screws on pod.
            * Weight on pod and a bit on the chassis
            * Pod taped
            * Pod float adjusted during testing
            * Ensured the front axle height adjustment was spot on: tyres just touching the track.
            * Smooth shank body screws, float adjusted as required

            And then I fiddled and faffed during testing to get it set up well. All this to say I did not just throw a car together and shipped it off: a whole lot of work went into it. And make no mistake: in testing it ran very nicely indeed.

            And I finished 12th out of 27 entries in the proxy....

            Tough series to be sure.
            Last edited by SuperSlab; 09-26-2020, 12:39 PM.

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            • #7
              hey these covid crap sure has put a cap on testing for me...have car out there in a proxy that only got to run few laps with at the club track and the country went into lock down mode, Not that I;m the best tuner out there but at least if I had more laps I would of felt better sending it off. there a few issues with it that would of showed there ugly face and I could of fixed them...im sure it would not be up there fighting for the win. but I would hope it would be the order more than it is now... testing testing can never be enough..

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              • #8
                Here's the best tip I can give you if you don't have a home track.

                I have a small test track that could be build in a day. Mine is a permanent setup, connected to a larger track but anyone copying it could store it anywhere. The circles are 90 cm in diameter. 20200719_211032.jpg
                It's easy and quick to setup a car on this track because lap time is only 2.2 sec for a good car. 15 laps and you know if any mod you've done works or not. I used it to setup my Touring Car Proxy entrant (which I'm currently leading, having won 4 of the first 5 rounds).

                Cheers

                Paul

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                • #9
                  You're right you only need bare bones to set the cars handling, you only need something bigger to get gearing sorted but if you use the same motors all the time you can get a ball park by using a rollout calculator.

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                  • #10
                    planing on building another track in the garage that will be using a Tilting Track -like Quail Ridge Speedway. just have to wait till the home remodel is done and i have the garage back...

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