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Having just spent the first hour with my 2 new Classic F1s, Cooper & Ferrari I have listed my first impressions.
Both great looking cars and I can remember as a teenager watching these cars race. Its great to now have them in slot cars and also another 2 to fit with the maser and vanwall.
The detail is great and they look good to scale although that is not a major for me. (Just looking good is enough)
Rear tires needed a good sanding on both cars as they were not very round.
That competed I started with the Cooper on the track. It was fast in a straight line and good on the corners provided you were gentle on the power. Once into a rythm lap times were in the mid 5 sec range. This on 75ft scaley sports track with PM controller. Trans Ams doing 4.9 to 5.1, MG Lola 5.1, Aussie V8 5.8, other classic F1s mid 5's, the new modern F1's 4.6 -4.9. So I was pretty pleased with the performance although it did crash alot if you tried to push it through the corners.
Now the Ferrari - what a dissappointment, it was hard to get a lap time as it was just crashing all the time. The best I could do was 6.3sec.
NOW before you all start I will admitt to being a magnet man and we tune ours cars with magnet strength and postion, no weigths and no non mag cars
I pulled both these new classic F1's apart and removed the 2mm thick magnet and replaced it with a scaley 3mm button magnet. WOW what a difference. The Ferrari is now the quickest and will run lap after lap at 5.1 to 5.2, Still need to be gentle on the power comming out of the corners but once into a rythm no crashes at all. The Cooper did not improve as much but would run 5.2 to 5.3 all day. It just didn't have the edge that the Ferrari has.
An interesting point was that both cars had a plastic or nylon washer sitting between magnent and the motor. This is 0.25mm thick. With the thicker magnet I had to take this out to allow motor to sit in place.
Does any body know why this washer/spacer was there.
The alternative to a thicker magnet would be to drop the exsisting magnet height by grinding the recess out. The Da T man Bruce did this on the early classic F1's and acheived the same result as increasing the magnet strength.
Yes, I am now very happy with my 2 new cars and will have a lot of fun with them, but no serious racing as I break all the cars that I race hard with.
KiwiPeter
Both great looking cars and I can remember as a teenager watching these cars race. Its great to now have them in slot cars and also another 2 to fit with the maser and vanwall.
The detail is great and they look good to scale although that is not a major for me. (Just looking good is enough)
Rear tires needed a good sanding on both cars as they were not very round.
That competed I started with the Cooper on the track. It was fast in a straight line and good on the corners provided you were gentle on the power. Once into a rythm lap times were in the mid 5 sec range. This on 75ft scaley sports track with PM controller. Trans Ams doing 4.9 to 5.1, MG Lola 5.1, Aussie V8 5.8, other classic F1s mid 5's, the new modern F1's 4.6 -4.9. So I was pretty pleased with the performance although it did crash alot if you tried to push it through the corners.
Now the Ferrari - what a dissappointment, it was hard to get a lap time as it was just crashing all the time. The best I could do was 6.3sec.
NOW before you all start I will admitt to being a magnet man and we tune ours cars with magnet strength and postion, no weigths and no non mag cars
I pulled both these new classic F1's apart and removed the 2mm thick magnet and replaced it with a scaley 3mm button magnet. WOW what a difference. The Ferrari is now the quickest and will run lap after lap at 5.1 to 5.2, Still need to be gentle on the power comming out of the corners but once into a rythm no crashes at all. The Cooper did not improve as much but would run 5.2 to 5.3 all day. It just didn't have the edge that the Ferrari has.
An interesting point was that both cars had a plastic or nylon washer sitting between magnent and the motor. This is 0.25mm thick. With the thicker magnet I had to take this out to allow motor to sit in place.
Does any body know why this washer/spacer was there.
The alternative to a thicker magnet would be to drop the exsisting magnet height by grinding the recess out. The Da T man Bruce did this on the early classic F1's and acheived the same result as increasing the magnet strength.
Yes, I am now very happy with my 2 new cars and will have a lot of fun with them, but no serious racing as I break all the cars that I race hard with.
KiwiPeter
Gee whiz, the stupid thing is faster than my 2002 and up F1's. Certainly no scale realism here. that's for sure 
Can make laps in the 8.2 second range. The 2002 and up with the standard style motors are getting 6.4 second laps at 10 volts, so I think it's pretty close as far as scale realism goes.
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