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    Alan
    Alan Smith
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  • #2
    Alan - Any word as to when all this will become available here? Very timely items for the World Speed Record...

    Have Fun - Da O'Vols

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    • #3
      I do not have an exact release date yet.

      But these parts will be usable in the World Speed Record Challenge.

      Cheers

      Alan
      Alan Smith
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      • #4
        I read through the catalog, and it is very interesting. All new motors, or a least all new colors and RPM ratings. To me, the new motors seem the best part of the new line. They are the normal Mabuchi FC-130 type, as Scalextric has used for years, but RPM is increased to three new levels (20, 25, and 30k). The slim F1/MotoBike motors are here too, in a few RPM levels. The 20k is the same as the so called "18k" motors actually turn. The 20k slim can may be a suitable aftermarket replacement for the 1961 Ferrari and Cooper F1 cars.

        As for the axles, gears, wheels, and bearings, 3mm is an odd choice, incompatible with anyone else's, although if you have old Scalextric Pro Tec parts, these might be the same size. 3mm is .118"; the standard 3/32" decimal inch equivalent is .094". Ninco and Fly axles are thinner than these, as well. The new Scalextric wheels only fit the new Scalex axles, and of course the new gears only fit the new axles, too. The wheels are blind, meaning the hole for the axle does not go all the way through. The wheels do not resemble real wheels; unfortunately they will not take inserts either.

        The silicone tires are in a variety of sizes, and appear to have realistic, bulged sidewalls. This could be a good improvement over some of the flat sided silicone tires we have been using.
        Last edited by Robert Livingston; 11-03-2005, 01:43 PM.

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        • #5
          Good & Not So Good

          The motors sure look a lot like the Scaleauto Motors don't they? Right down to the RPM rating and the colors? I don't think that these products are going to hurt Slot.It too much at this time. Much of the stuff looks nice, but the alumanum wheels...yech. I am not sure which cars you would want to put these on. They just don't seem to fit into any catagories that I can think of. Also I agree with Robert, Scalextric's choice to use brand specific sizes is a bit odd, or not odd, depending on how cynical you are. I won't even tell you my theory on that. For diehard Scalextric people (UK) these products will make a wonderful addition to the market place.

          Later

          Gordo Bond 007

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          • #6
            Scalextric blows it big!

            When a competitor with proven products and upgrades such as Slot-It has gone with a proven size such as 3/32nd axles Scaly now goes against the grain with 3mm. I do not think that is a smart move. In my humble opinion of course.


            We shall see, I know what I will buy for upgrades and it is not 3mm.

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            • #7
              I am trying to think of technical reasons why 3mm might be a good size.

              One reason is that it allows a large size of set screw, with superior clamping power, and a large size of allen wrench, which will presumably not lose its shoulders and/or strip out the shoulders inside the socket.

              Note that the gear alignment system uses a separate disc on a hub to the left of the pinion, with the crown gear to the right, on its own hub. This allows all pinion diameters to be used, unlike Slot.It, which is confined to a single, 5.5mm pinion diameter.

              Given the large axle diameter, it should be easy and trouble free to repeatedly replace the gears, and get the gear and alighment disc all neatly and securely screwed down, thanks to those large set screws.

              On the other hand, this may simply be a way to use up existing, obsolete stocks of 3mm Pro Tec axles, or (perish the thought) increase profits by locking consumers into a Scalex-parts-only pattern.

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              • #8
                I would think it is your last choose ...they dont want you useing just any part on there cars..they want you to use there parts...silly again by scaley


                cheers

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                • #9
                  I don't see the Scalextric spares as being in direct competition with Slot.it.

                  For me, the Scalextric range is aimed at their customers who haven't tried out any tuning spares before. The range is simple (both in size and the way the parts are packaged) and it is a lot cheaper. I'm not saying the range is better than Slot.it, just that it is different.

                  If anything it will increase the market for tuning spares, which in the longer term will only be of benefit for Slot.it. I can see people trying the Scalextric range and then moving on to Slot.it.

                  I wouldn't read too much in to the 3mm axle size. Scalextric haven't announced any plans to release cars with 3mm axles as standard, so I don't see why it locks anyone in.

                  Jon,
                  Slot City.

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                  • #10
                    Note that the gear alignment system uses a separate disc on a hub to the left of the pinion, with the crown gear to the right, on its own hub. This allows all pinion diameters to be used, unlike Slot.It, which is confined to a single, 5.5mm pinion diameter.
                    OK, that explains how you adjust gear mesh on an inline and that Robert has a sharp eye, but how is it done on the sidewinders? Also it shows one set of pinions for either inline or sidewinders, and one set only for inlines? Could it be the one set of pinions is standard diameter, like Slot it?

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                    • #11
                      This couldn't be more disappointing.

                      3mm??? For all the above metioned comments by Rob and Larry... why would they make different size parts that are not compatable with even their own parts? So if you want a nice set of bearings from the "tune up parts" line, YOU CAN'T USE IT ON THE STOCK SCALEX PARTS?!?!!!! Gimme a break. This will be a failure, just like the Pro Tec parts (that they aparently are trying to use up...THAT FAILED MISERABLY THE FIRST TIME AROUND).

                      Scalex never fails to "not get it". They seem to be a too big a company that isn't in touch with what the consumer's want.

                      Why not make standard 3/32 axle parts? It would be a nice synergy with Slot It and other replacement parts.

                      Adrian are you listening?

                      DK

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                      • #12
                        OK, that explains how you adjust gear mesh on an inline and that Robert has a sharp eye, but how is it done on the sidewinders? Also it shows one set of pinions for either inline or sidewinders, and one set only for inlines? Could it be the one set of pinions is standard diameter, like Slot it?
                        There are two packs of pinions, one for the FF motor and the other for the SP motor - its nothing to do with whether the motor is inline or sidewinder. It only shows the FF pinions in an inline configuration because it isn't used as a sidewinder.

                        I can't answer the question on the gear mesh though, I'll check with Scalextric and see what they say.

                        Jon,
                        Slot City.

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                        • #13
                          Different markets do use different axles.

                          Hi Guys,

                          I split the post so you can discuss the latest Scalextric News here without filling up the Announcement post with questions, and opinions, or in Pete's case pinions

                          Anyway, with regard to the 3mm axle size, I agree many existing users are use to the 3/32 axle and a far as I am concerned great stay with it.

                          But it is interesting that many of the European used performance products are 3mm Momo, Plafit, Moto Modern etc ( please excuse spelling it is early ) so to say the 3/32 is the only size is not completely correct.

                          With regard to the pinions and spur gears, I spoke with the Technical Department at Scalextric, and there is a fitment chart, which pinions can be used with which spur gear to get the correct mesh.

                          With pinion and crown gears ( inline ) there is an extra disc to set the mesh to the armature shaft so any crown can be used with any pinion.

                          They have not followed the Slot.it shift the pitch to keep the size of all pinions/crown/spur gears the same method. They prefer to make constant pitch gears, so they will supply a chart for pairs of gears ( sidewinder/spur gears ) that will mesh.

                          Hope this makes sense.

                          Cheers

                          Alan
                          Alan Smith
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                          • #14
                            Thanks for that, Alan, even with the bad pun. But their statement of having "25 combinations of gearing for any Scalextric car" doesn't seem acurate, at least for sidewinders?

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                            • #15
                              The larger mostly non RTR cars-

                              such as the afore mentioned European performance products which have 3mm axles like Momo, Plafit, Motor Modern etc. So what!

                              That may be fine for them, as they are almost all 1/24th scale cars, so how does that relate to the 1/32nd scale cars such as Scalextric et al.

                              Just can't figure the reasoning behind this move. This is just as bad a strategy as the inability/refusal of the manufacturers to standardise the digital scene.

                              It now fragments the update market as well. All of them seem to be in it, just for them selves and they refuse to cooperate with any one else or consider the customer in the end. And then they claim to want to grow the market. This will not bode well for the US market in the end.

                              Maurizio better step up his update market product plans to take advantage of this mis-thinking.

                              Just makes me shake my head in absolute un-belief.

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