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  • Jag Hobbies RS-6 ; Mega G "Clone" or a Blue Printed Upgrade?

    I should tell you up front I am "new" to Jag Hobbies products. While I have looked at their site many times, I have never previously bought or run a Jag Hobbies chassis with the exception of a single PR-5 (1.7 wheelbase) I got from Gary Fast, to use in an upcoming Lotus 79 project. Well, an offer from Gary to get in on an order for this NEW RS-6 just piqued my interest, so I purchased two of these from Gary on my last visit to F.I.R. and I finally got around to taking a closer look and testing them against the original Mega G 1.5, and it's successor Mega G+........

    I have not been shy about expressing my positive feelings about the Mega G, in either 1.5 OR 1.7 wheelbases; I think it is an outstanding chassis, being compact in both width and height to open up a world of possibilities to host not only open-topped roadster bodies (such as Group-7 "Can Am' cars of the '60's-'70's) as well as the cigar-shaped F-1 cars of the '60's). I reviewed postings in the Forum when these first came out, and predicted that the aftermarket would eventually come out with parts upgrades to enhance these even further. And based on the offerings from both Viper Scale Racing and Harden Creek, THAT is exactly what happened, to the benefit of us enthusiasts of the product........

    But after several revisions (mostly "Child Safety" related), the chassis morphed INTO the Mega G+; while the chassis dynamics definitely IMPROVED (thanks for listening, AFX), the chassis were now powered by the somewhat polarizing "can motor. Why polarizing? The motor required a controller change from 60 OHMS to 120OHMS (okay; the AFX track allows quick plug in of the controllers), but more importantly, that can motor (especially with that green wirs soldered on top) was high enough to cause the originally low Panoz open wheel body on the 1.7 version to be raised (as opposed to cutting out proper clearance, as Cast-Resin bodies made for the chassis have), and for low-profile sportscar bodies (examples: Ford GT40 Mk.II and the "Modern Ford GT) to have their interior card "bowed upwards" to clear the motor........

    There I go again on a tangent; THIS is about the RS-6 and it's comparison to the original Mega G and it's replacement (and current AFX offering) the Mega G+ in the 1.5 wheelbase:


    IMG_5874.jpg IMG_5875.jpg



    IMG_5876.jpg IMG_5877.jpg

    At first glance, the RS-6 LOOKS very similar to the original Mega G; I read somewhere that the idea was to use the same armature magnets/ barrel brushes/pickup shoes as the Mega G; they certainly LOOK the same to me. One thing immediately noticeable is the rear chassis magnets, which are inserted from the SIDE, and not exposed to the track pickup rails underneath. This is a departure from the partially shrouded magnets on the Mega G, and more open on the Mega G+ (NOTE: the Mega G+ has been marked to indicate it has "Level 52"chassis magnets).

    The side view (sorry for the poor picture) shows the profile of both the earlier Mega G AND the RS-6 to be similar;it appears they both will take the same body clip (one DID NOT come with the RS-6). The Mega G+ has the higher profile due to the can motor.

    What stood out for me, was the tire diamters (as measured on by BSRT Tire gauge); Fronts are .382, while the rears are a whopping .472 , leading to the high track clearance seen in the last picture. I also noticed that there is another set of axle holes; but they are for a SHORTER (?) wheelbase of maybe 1.3. Does Jag Hobbies make a body for this shorter wheelbase? If anybody knows, please chime in.......

    I DID like the stainless steel axles, with NO KNARLING on the ends, so if a wheel swap is desired, the removal should not destroy the wheels (As on the AFX product), and while the chassis itself appears "blockier" than the Mega G, it seems sturdy enough to take some punsihment.

    My understanding is these armatures are 6 OHM; running them up (after proper lubrication; this was emphasized by Jag Hobbies BEFORE running them), they seemed much peppier; maybe the armature magnets are more powerful than expected.

    When I finally ran my pair on my home track (using the AFX Tri-Powerpack on the high voltage "Expert" setting, the chassis (no body yet) ran very quick, and held the track well, considering the higher track clearance and shielded chassis magnets. I had to really overdrive the chassis to get the rear tires to break loose, and eventually deslot. Overall, I liked the results, and now have to test with various bodies, and maybe some lower profile tires........

    I have mentioned this before in previous comments on other threads about AFX abandoning previous chassis designs, only to have another manufacturer step in and build an enhanced, "Blue Printed" version:

    Super G+ - First BSRT, but more prominantly, Viper Scale Racing;
    Turbo/SRT - First Bulldog, but more recently Harden Creek, who make/sell a can motored version of the Super G+ I previously posted on;
    Mega G 1.5 - Now Jag Hobbies with this RS-6
    Mega G 1.7 - Jag Hobbies PR-5

    Jag Hobbies (per their website) is offering a myriad number of chassis right now. While no one had copied the Mega G+, that can motor IS in a version that utilizee the original chassis of the old T-Jet, as well as versioins for both body clip and screw on bodies.

    Please comment if you have experience with this chassis; it would be interesting to read what others think about this chassis, as well as Jag Hobbies in general.......
    Last edited by Speedhoppy; 09-15-2023, 04:57 AM.

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    NOBODY has any feedback on this chassis? Is it because no one has purchased/ run them, or has no comments to add/refute what I have said?
    Last edited by Speedhoppy; 09-15-2023, 04:56 AM.

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    • #3
      refure?

      The 1.4'' wheelbase is not for any specific body, according to Jim.

      He makes a clever guide pin for it.

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      Last edited by NicoRosberg.; 09-14-2023, 07:34 AM.

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      • #4
        "Refure" should have been "refute"; I have corrected the spelling in my original post; hopefully that might generate some feedback......

        Why would a manufacturer make a SHORTER wheelbase than normal (to fit other bodies on the market, for example), without anything specific in mind? I see a "Can Am" style body on their site, as well as a GT style body. Would anyone know (or purchased) one of these, and can tell if it is based on the 1.5 or the shorter (1.3/1.4) wheelbase?

        I am assuming the spare guide pin (like the one on the chassis as purchased) is meant for sectional track that has either a deeper or shallower guide slot

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        • #5
          Mark,

          before I respond about the RS-6 chassis, let me see if I can answer your other question about the multiple front axle positions. There doesn't appear to be any "secret squirrel" reason for it. It seems to be a feature on all the Jag chassis, except for the PR5. I found this information under every chassis Jag makes. It is located in the "Trouble Shooting" section. At the bottom of every page for a specific chassis it states the following:

          __________________________________________________ __

          Wheel Base Adjustment

          All JAG Hobbies chassis have an adjustable wheel base (except for the PR-5)
          To adjust:
          Snap front axle assembly out from the top and snap back in desired location (Note: does not apply to the DK-4)


          __________________________________________________ ___

          So, there you go. It appears this is a Jag Hobbies chassis feature for the user to use as they wish. No hidden thoughts to the contrary.

          .

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          • #6
            Jag Hobbies RS-6 impressions.

            I should first start off as saying that I purchase most all of my slot car parts from Jag Hobbies. Whether it be for their Jag chassis, or anything I'm looking for from Viper, etc. It's not my "one stop place", but Jim Gase does an outstanding job of carrying a wide supply of slot car parts.

            The RS6;

            Positives:
            I really like the chassis which is a evolution of the Jag NC-2 and also based off of the out of production AFX Mega-G platform. I feel Jag has hit a homerun of producing the low-slung chassis that performs really well. The RS6 is no exception. Oil up any Jag chassis, and it will run good right out of the package. I did very little to dial the RS6 into making smooth laps around my routed track. I agree that the chassis sits higher, but that works for me given the fact of the well-matched traction magnets. I believe these are n30 strength. The RS6 also incorporates the use of the newer chamfered armature magnets. These give more clearance when mounting on a close-fitting body. The gearing is the normal 7t / 25t configuration that Jag puts on most all their chassis. The armature is rated at 6ohm. I do not find the chassis "blocky" as stated above. It is strong and will take a lickin'. The chassis shares many of the parts used in their sister chassis like the armature, arm magnets, comm brushes and barrels, P/U shoe springs, wheel, tires, etc. Most of the parts are identical to their NC-2 chassis. Just a longer 1.5" wb, and the best part is, the chassis has the correct tab openings positioned to except most AFX bodies.

            Negatives:
            I don't see a lot, if any negatives. The only two things I would change is the magnet downforce for my track rails, and the tire height for my track rails. BUT!!! Don't we all have to do that to most chassis to dial that chassis into our personal tracks? So, do I see negatives? NO!!!

            Overall- I like this chassis and how it is put together. I like the short time of filling my order and getting it shipped. The price is competitive by rolling slot car chassis pricing at $23.50 ea.

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            Last edited by fastlap; 09-15-2023, 10:40 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fastlap View Post
              Mark,

              before I respond about the RS-6 chassis, let me see if I can answer your other question about the multiple front axle positions. There doesn't appear to be any "secret squirrel" reason for it. It seems to be a feature on all the Jag chassis, except for the PR5. I found this information under every chassis Jag makes. It is located in the "Trouble Shooting" section. At the bottom of every page for a specific chassis it states the following:

              __________________________________________________ __

              Wheel Base Adjustment

              All JAG Hobbies chassis have an adjustable wheel base (except for the PR-5)
              To adjust:
              Snap front axle assembly out from the top and snap back in desired location (Note: does not apply to the DK-4)


              __________________________________________________ ___

              So, there you go. It appears this is a Jag Hobbies chassis feature for the user to use as they wish. No hidden thoughts to the contrary.

              .
              Hey, Gary (and anybody else reading this thread), I just got back from a four-day weekend with the wife and my ex-work buds, and seeing your comments for the first time.

              It appears I might not have made my question about multiple front end options clear enough. It was not that it HAD them, but rather the option was SHORTER (looks like either a 1.3 or 1.4) than the 1.5 wheelbase the chassis is set up with. I was wondering if Jag was making a shorter wheelbase body for these is all.........

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              • #8
                Okay, this thread is starting yo gain some traction. Whether the RS-6 chassis is "blocky" as I stated is just a visual impression I gathered comparing visually to the early Mega G; it was not meant to denigrate the chassis OR creator. The "bottom line" in any personal preference SHOULD be both the performance, and how successful it fits the design parameters & goals. I have not tried EVERY body with this chassis; but it does appear to fit the bodies the original Mega G 1.5 fits, so I think the criteria has been met, especially performance-wise........

                I know why Gary Fast likes these Jag chassis in general (especially the 1.7 wheelbase length); they fit his low profile open wheel bodies without carving out a rectangular shape to clear the can motor on the Mega G+; I can respect that......

                What do other Forum members think of this chassis, and are you racing it with your clubs (should you belong to one)?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Speedhoppy View Post
                  . I also noticed that there is another set of axle holes; but they are for a SHORTER (?) wheelbase of maybe 1.3. Does Jag Hobbies make a body for this shorter wheelbase? If anybody knows, please chime in....

                  I thought your question about this area was very clear. So, I'm chiming in.

                  As stated on the Jag site, the RS-6 is a 1.5" chassis made to accept most AFX bodies. There are no specific bodies the shorter or multiple front axle positions are for in regard to this RS-6 chassis (at least, not that has been stated by Jag Hobbies). They are for the chassis owner to use as he/she pleases.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Speedhoppy View Post

                    Why would a manufacturer make a SHORTER wheelbase than normal (to fit other bodies on the market, for example), without anything specific in mind?
                    I can only go by what Jim told me.

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