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  • "Who will help me keep the lights on".

    Ed's title which I changed.

    Will The Last Person Leaving Please Turn Out The Lights?


    SCI, having clawed its way out of yet another server-failure grave, now seems to be dying from neglect.

    Not a lot of posts of late. If Kevan and RichD would go silent we'd be left with mostly crickets. Model Murdering pops up now and again. But days go by without much to show for it.

    I've got a few contributions in the works. And Gerry Cullan keeps rumbling about a major series on one or more subjects yet to be disclosed. Could it be we're just in a lull, fully explicable by that 3-sigma distribution so beloved of statisticians?

    Home Racing World seems to be doing okay. I'm making more contributions there of late. But SCI has been my home, despite crashes and dislocations.

    Needs a kick in the pants, it does.

    Ed Bianchi
    Last edited by Scaleracing; 09-25-2020, 12:37 PM. Reason: Changed the heading to hopefully reflect the strength of positive comments.

  • #2
    Some forums feel a nicer place to be and I do like it here and it's why I keep coming back...it's my #2 forum to visit.
    I yearn for info on proxies, builds, 3D works, stuff I haven't thought about trying before. I used to scour for help and setup tips but I'm finding I need little help to do alright.
    It's nice to offer advice, I only ever advise doing something if its better than everything else I've tried, I suppose it depends how far along the journey you've come when you start disagreeing with advice someone has posted that you know didn't work but something better did.
    Not all forums need everyone, this one caters specifically for 3D (amongst a lot of other good stuff of course)...whereas the main slot car forum hides it in scenery or some such so I flatly refuse to share my 3D stuff there.
    ​​​​​​...keep on truckin'

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    • #3
      My stupid phone thinks it can read my mind and spell better than me...it can't and hence a couple of edits in my previous post!

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      • #4
        Alas, I've seen this on many forums over the years. Once there's a significant outage, and even worse multiple, the user base no longer trusts the platform and moves elsewhere.

        I do think it is possible to build that trust of reliability back up with the users over time, but I rarely see it happen.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HO RacePro View Post
          SCI, having clawed its way out of yet another server-failure grave, now seems to be dying from neglect.

          Not a lot of posts of late. If Kevan and RichD would go silent we'd be left with mostly crickets. Model Murdering pops up now and again. But days go by without much to show for it.

          I've got a few contributions in the works. And Gerry Cullan keeps rumbling about a major series on one or more subjects yet to be disclosed. Could it be we're just in a lull, fully explicable by that 3-sigma distribution so beloved of statisticians?

          Home Racing World seems to be doing okay. I'm making more contributions there of late. But SCI has been my home, despite crashes and dislocations.

          Needs a kick in the pants, it does.

          Ed Bianchi
          Well I beg to differ on the number of posts.... I get an email for EVERY SINGLE post. Which I do review every evening, prior to deleting those emails. And the post quantity has been fairly consistent, I see about 30-40 posts a day, about the same I saw pre-latest crash.

          We have had a few hiccups since I took over, but the user base is coming back. A lot of people seem to be trolling/browsing the forums rather than posting though.

          This latest outage would have been a lot shorter had my backup solution not been so crappy (in my defense, I didn't know it at the time), Acronis fell completely on their faces and made a blasted foul out of me. Personally, I cannot in good conscience recommend Acronis services for Linux or any mission critical component. They are horrible to deal with. Sorry for the rant. Enjoy seeing you all!

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          • #6
            I for one am still here and hoping for the return of posters. I keep throwin up a few new posts to draw in some interests but it's slow going but I'll keep trying.
            Dave

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            • #7
              I'm new to the Forum.
              Figure it's only going to be as good as what I'm willing / able to put into, contribute.
              No deposit. No return.

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              • #8
                I stuck with the old forum for months but as posters became frustrated and left, I stopped checking in on a daily basis. It was a part of my routine but to add insult to injury, they stopped competitive racing and my slot car group was afraid to meet. Our group is back racing again! I'll post one of these races soon.

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                • #9
                  That is what it takes, thank you. The Hobby is about conversation, community etc.

                  The Forum is and always has been content driven. We are still getting a lot of readers on SCI many either never join or never activate their account. I have 100's of new sign ups but only a few posters.
                  Alan Smith
                  SCI Owner.
                  www.scaleracing.com
                  www.slotcarillustrated.com
                  www.facebook.com/scaleracingcenter
                  www.132slotcar.us

                  1-253-255-1807

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                  • #10
                    The many (and long) disruptions have reduced my trust of this forum, especially for posting info about the 2020 Touring Car Proxy.

                    The biggest killer of a proxy is not keeping entrants informed so I moved all reporting of the 2020 Touring Car Proxy to the Aussie forum because it always works.

                    I'll still come here to look at stuff but it will take a while before I believe that all problems have been resolved.

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                    • #11
                      There is a difference between content and commentary. Posts that feature someone's latest efforts -- be it a highly detailed car body, or track build, or track scenery, or a novel slotcar feature, or tool, or research results, or technical tips -- those posts are what add real value to this community.

                      Posts that say basically, "Whoa! Cool stuff!", aren't bad per se, but don't contribute much. And I'm not saying they are out of line. I've made some of those posts myself when I was truly blown away by someone's masterful accomplishment. But I also try to add some value by describing something I have tried to do along similar lines, something I have learned related to the subject, or some related history I am aware of.

                      Sometimes there are posts that are tangential to slotting, but interesting enough to merit publication. In moderation, appreciated and thank you.

                      Sixty years on you'd think everything that needs to be said about slot racing would have been said by now. It is fascinating that there is still plenty of stuff left to discuss. New technology and products help keep things perking. And newbies coming into the community do need to get educated by the graybeards. Who in turn get re-educated when old topics and assumptions get examined by those new eyes.

                      Some of the best threads are conversations that include viewpoints that span the whole spectrum of slotcar hobbyists. Those can be the most entertaining and the most valuable.

                      Ed Bianchi



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HO RacePro View Post
                        Some of the best threads are conversations that include viewpoints that span the whole spectrum of slotcar hobbyists. Those can be the most entertaining and the most valuable.
                        Like "Is CERTS a Breath Mint or a Candy Mint??"

                        Humor helps in threads as well.
                        Last edited by Silberpfeil; 09-25-2020, 10:26 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sports Racer View Post
                          The many (and long) disruptions have reduced my trust of this forum, especially for posting info about the 2020 Touring Car Proxy.

                          The biggest killer of a proxy is not keeping entrants informed so I moved all reporting of the 2020 Touring Car Proxy to the Aussie forum because it always works.
                          Let me start by saying that from the time I started back in slot racing around 12 years ago, SCI was ALWAYS my go-to forum. From day 1 I loved the people, I loved the content, I loved the character: it just resonated with me. It attracted a certain kind of person and it generated a certain kind of content, both of which greatly appealed to me. This forum was a huge part of the pleasure I got from the hobby.

                          As for now: I believe recognising and understanding a problem is essential in trying to fix the problem. Unfortunately I believe Sports Racer's comment is a very valid a and very important one. And to me it is a big concern. Proxy races are a major source of posts, both in terms of reporting and on the technical side. Not to mention the requisite trash talking of course.... Several proxies are very competitive and challenging and I find the technical discussions that usually go with that to be very informative and interesting. And very often frequent proxy participants are also the people that do interesting things outside of proxies and often start interesting technical discussions.

                          When this forum was going through the worst time, essentially all proxy hosts moved to other forums for the reasons you mention. Moving a proxy to a different forum is not something one does lightly. People did it because of necessity at the time. Now that these proxies are established on other forums, I fear that very few proxy organisers would have the appetite to move back here again. And as a consequence, a lot of the proxy participants pretty much shifted their attentions to these other forums and are now set there, so they too would be inclined to stick there. For me personally as example: a lot of my recent forum posts were related to proxies and proxy car preparation. Also organised racing such as the Western Canada TT races and other out-of-town major events. So I naturally post on the forum where these events are hosted. And I confess that it would be a schlepp for me to repeat the post here where the majority of the members have no involvement (or interest?) with the event. In addition, the part of the membership/audience on this forum that WOULD be interested in the events are the same people that would see my posts on other forums in any case.

                          I do NOT want to be a Debbie Downer but I do fear that building SCI back up is going to be a slog and will not happen overnight. But I would be happy to be proved wrong. And because of my affinity to the forum, I undertake to do my best to start posting technical stuff here again FWIW, even if it does mean repeat posting.

                          Alwyn

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                          • #14
                            I fully take on board the comments and as I said before content is king on any Forum.
                            I struggled to get the Site back up, spending $1,000's to rebuild on the original Server when ownership changed.
                            Then $1,000's more on another Server and with another company, while also rebuilding my Store Site as that also crashed at the same time ( same server etc)
                            All this happened as I came out of Hospital after some surgery and was told to go home and rest. Only to find everything was crashing around my ears.

                            Moving forward I managed to get my Store Site working again although it took several attempts to restore data bases etc. By this time it was the Christmas Holidays and sales were almost non existent.

                            That has recovered thanks to the loyalty of many of my customers, and Also BRM, RevoSlot and Scaleauto.

                            I could go on as the story does, but now we are in 2020 and who saw that coming.

                            My business is now one person, me, plus the support of my wonderful family and I still try to get work done here as well.

                            Russ has been a huge help and like a person long ago Mike Liptak who was my right hand man for years, well actually both hands as I am not a Web Programmer etc.
                            Russ was a customer at my Track, and offered to help with almost no financial return. He is not a Slot Car Racer, so sometimes misses the point on things I might understand. But be sure I could not have got SCI back online without him.

                            Then Servers crash again, I will not complain what good would it do me. Thankfully this time www.132slotcar.us stayed up and running. This is critical as this is the only real funding have to keep SCI online now.

                            So just to state, we are not going away, we are going to change some. We are and will be more about the excellent products I Import and Distribute and about my Store as that is the financing of SCI anyway.
                            I never really promoted www.132slotcar.us much in the past as I wanted to promote all Real Stores as that is the way I see to growth of the Hobby. But that part of the Industry has changed, most are now Warehouses at best or even houses, even Distributors are not what they use to be, many fulfill direct from eBay and Amazon. Yes the times they are a changing, but I still feel there is a place for SCI.

                            We post on Instagram and Facebook to reach new customers and those who know little or nothing about the Hobby. We tweet info and will , time allowing, be doing more of that.

                            We are looking for support, content, and discussion here to help rebirth this part of SCI. Be sure SCI and www.132slotcar.us and The ScaleRacing Center are not going away. Changing yes, but not going away. We still have thousands of readers here, and guests always outnumber logged in Members.

                            Will proxy races host here, I hope we can organize some. But again as a 1 person business I need support on that.

                            So there you are, just celebrated another go around the Sun and I am going to keep going on this Industry and Hobby I love.

                            Almost forgot, I even, in partnership with BRM, build Slot Cars in the USA I hope that counts for something, it has my heart and soul invested. Plus support from my family in building parts of those cars. My daughter Julia and her boy friend build chassis, Trevor helps build and test cars and I assemble set up as ship those ScaleRacing/BRM Trans Am cars. There is more news coming on that front soon.

                            OK now back to shipping.

                            Sincerely

                            Alan Smith



                            Alan Smith
                            SCI Owner.
                            www.scaleracing.com
                            www.slotcarillustrated.com
                            www.facebook.com/scaleracingcenter
                            www.132slotcar.us

                            1-253-255-1807

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                            • #15
                              Keep fighting the good fight Alan!

                              A thought. YouTube videos are a compelling way to introduce folks to slot car racing. While SCI and similar sites can serve video, potential newbies are unlikely to stumble upon those videos while simply browsing the web, and there is no good way to seek out more videos scattered around the site.

                              There are tons of slotcar and slot racing video on YouTube. But here again they are scattered. YouTube's software does a good job of finding similar videos, but there is no real organization to them. Worse, if you go view a video, the ones recommended next often don't include the ones offered previously.

                              I don't know if YouTube -- or any other such site -- offers a way to organize a library of related videos. But I think it would be a valuable feature. If such a library existed a potential slotter, once he stumbled on one video, could browse through many related videos. The hope is they would come away fired up, anxious to experience the hobby in real life.

                              Such a library would be the go-to site, not only for viewing videos but for posting new ones. A table of contents and indexing would be natural enhancements. In time that library could become a Wikipedia for the hobby.

                              Okay yeah, I'm waving my hands but not creating any reality. Like I said -- a thought.

                              Ed Bianchi

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