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  • The plastic tracks are sure gonna test the longevity of the 300+ downforce cars...especially the raised rail Ninco

    Having Fun - Da Vols

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    • I can save you some trouble, my car is 12:36.

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      • Tiggerhappy's Porsche 908 had the magnet moved upward (moved to higher pocket under motor, TSRF frame) in order to comply with ground clearance rules of GPR. It had about 450 grams downforce before ascending to permissable height.
        Yet remains the one with the highest downforce number! Serious car on the plastic, I'm thinking ...

        Well, it looks like I installed the Slot.it gold bar magnet too high in the 917k.
        Yeah, you're supposed to attach it to the chassis, Terry - not the roof.

        The plastic tracks are sure gonna test the longevity of the 300+ downforce cars.
        No doubt about that Bruce (though it's gonna take a lot of attrition to move that Chevron up eh?), but there are some strong motors out there in the P class this year. How will it all shake out, you gotta wonder?

        I gotta admit, with my own car I used the highly scientific method of turning it upside down on a piece of Scalextric Classic track to see if it would fall off. It didn't, so I figured my HRS Racing Magnut was set right. After sending it off to Connecticut, I put a stock Fly 908 on the same piece of track, and guess what? That's right, the other car didn't fall off either ...

        So now of course, being an analytical so-and-so, I can't wait for the spreadsheet with all the specifications! (13/32, by the way).

        Milo - what can I say? Yer plumage is just stunning.

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        • Paul - Yep, attrition and at least some tracks that like my tire choice. I am surprised at my magnet rating...I ran it on Artin which has the least attraction to magnets and it stuck nicely yet still drifted a little - when I also had my Carrera track I know that what's right on Artin was way stuck down on Carrera so I went with that knowledge for my lightweight Chevron. As to the Ninco - my first track - I remember Scalextric TA's just needed a blip to make the turns they were so stuck to that track.

          Not sure of my gear ratio...just did a quick transplant from my VW to get in there in time...think it's a 9T with whatever a Slot.It blue spur is...34T?

          Anywhat, don't wish anyone "smoke on the plastic", but it'll be interesting to see how all fair down this year long road.

          Still Having Fun - Da Vols
          Last edited by Da Vols; 12-21-2006, 06:34 AM.

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          • Scrutineering Tech Info:
            This is copied from an Excel spread sheet. The first car (Phil's No 16) has the data captioned in more detail than the rest of the entries.
            Only a few motors given the tach test this year. The notation ("XXk") is the factory spec RPM/12v, not a test result, except for the yellow-can Scalex Sport Plus "20k", which I did measure at 23k.

            16 P Ferrari 612P Spyder Phil Kalbfell 162gr wt 62gr downforce NSR tires Brass sprung multiplate aw (anglewinder chassis) Fox II ~26k 3.45 gear ratio anglewinder gears 11:38 tooth count Red
            55 P Ferrari 512S Spyder R. Livingston 83 352 Ortmann Fly modif. sprung mpod sw Slot.It V12/2 25k 3.27 sw 11:36 Red
            1 P Porsche 908/3 Tony Kuljis 97 360 NSR Oiled Fly modif. sprung mpod sw NSR Shark 22k 3.21 sw 14:45 Orange/Blue GULF
            69 P Porsche 917K Terry Noe 84 64 Slot.It S1 Slot.It HRS sw Slot.It V12/3 21.5k 3.27 sw 11:36 Green
            67 P Porsche 908/2 Wet Coast R 87 265 PPR SupT Slot.It HRS sw Slot.It V12/3 21.5k 2.46 sw 13:32 Blue/white ESSO
            3 P Porsche 936 Dr Vanski 104 310 Ortmann Slot.It HRS inline NSR King 30k 3.33 il 9:30 Red/Blue/White MARTINI
            9 P Ferrari 330P4 Coupe Pete N95 101 245 NSR Ninco flat aw Ninco NC5 2.67 aw 12:32 Red
            36 P Porsche 908/3 Reckless Rcr 91 163 Ortmann Slot.It HRS inline NSR Shark 22k 3.5 il 8:28 Orange/Blue GULF
            30 P Lola T70 Spyder Gascarnut 101 270 Ortmann Brass multiplate iso-fulcrum Pro Slot Eu Mk1 26k 3.46 sw 13:45 White/Dk Blue BARDAHL
            5 P Ferrari 330 P4 Spyder abie 321 121 99 Slot.It S1 Slot.It HRS sw Fly Racing 26.8k 3.09 sw 11:34 Yellow/Green COCA COLA
            24 P Porsche 908 Milo Bluetoes 109 177 PPR SupT PCB flat sw Slot.It V12/2 25k 3.0 sw 12:36 Blue/Yellow
            49 P Ferrari 330 P4 Coupe Nick 49 74 243 Ortmann Scalex modif. sw Scalextric std. 20k 3.27 sw 11:36 Yellow CAMEL
            54 P Porsche 908 Triggerhappy 113 370 Ortmann TSRF sw TSRF 35k 3.21 sw 14:45 Dk Blue
            28 P Porsche 917K Spirit Racer 97 264 PPR SupT TSRF sw TSRF 35k 3.21 sw 14:45 Red/Blue/White MARTINI
            7 P Chaparral 2D Austin 84 320 Slot.It S1 Pro Track ladder inline Slot.It V12/2 23k 3.38 il 8:27 White
            64 P Chevron Kazooracer 81 212 Ortmann GBTrack modif. flex sw Slot.It V12/2 25k 3.27 sw 11:36 Orange JAGERMEISTER
            18 P Ferrari 312P Coupe BeeJay 112 391 NSR MilanT PCB inline Pro Slot Eu Mk1 26k 3.38 il 8:27 Red
            8 P Chevron Da Vols 92 160 Slot.It P3 GBTRack sw Fox II ~26k 3.09 sw 11:34 White/Red CANON
            6 P Porsche 917K Spyder BigDSonic 71 197 NSR CFiber pivot mpod aw Pro Slot Eu Mk1 26k 3.0 aw 15:45 Red/Yellow SHELL

            83 GT BMW M1 Phil Kalbfell 123 6 NSR Fly flat sw Slot.It V12/2 23k 3.09 sw 11:34 Blue/White ANTAR
            1 GT Toyota LB Turbo R. Livingston 87 12 Ortmann Slot.It modif. mpod sw Slot.It V12/3 21.5k 2.67 sw 12:32 White/Red RODENSTOCK
            26 GT Lancia Beta Montecarlo Wayne 82 8 Ortmann Slot.It HRS sw Slot.It V12/2 23k 2.83 sw 12:34 Dk Green/Orange
            57 GT Corvette L88 JTPrevia 85 8 Ortmann Slot.It HRS sw Slot.It V12/3 21.5k 2.67 sw 12:32 Red/White/Blue ESSEX
            48 GT Capri RS Turbo Reckless Rcr 97 11 Ortmann Fly flat inline Ninco NC6 2.78 il 9:25 Orange/Blue GULF
            34 GT Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Spirit R Club 82 1 PPR SupT Slot.It HRS inline Slot.It Boxer 24k 3.11 il 9:28 White/Red ANTAR
            59 GT Porsche 911 Dave K 90 13 Ortmann Fly Racing mpod sprung il Ninco NC5 2.56 il 9:23 White/Red CANON
            1 GT Porsche 911 Dr Vanski 105 15 Ortmann Fly Racing mpod sprung il Ninco NC6 2.89 il 9:26 Red/Blue/White MARTINI
            24 GT Cobra Roadster Gascarnut 81 15 Ortmann Slot.It HRS sw mag susp Slot.It V12/3 21.5k 3.0 sw 12:36 White/Red
            7A GT Capri RS Turbo Tony Kuljis 86 0 NSR Oiled Fly flat sw Fly Racing EVO2 17k 2.8 il 10:28 Red/White BANZAI
            64 GT Ferrari 512 BB LM BeeJay 128 11 NSR Carrera/Slot.It flat inline Ninco NC5 3.0 il 9:27 White/Red NART
            95 GT Capri RS Turbo Pete N95 90 1 Ortmann Fly flat inline Fly Racing EVO2 17k 2.7 il 10:27 Orange/Blue GULF
            76 GT Greenwood Corvette Terry Noe 93 9 Ortmann Slot.It HRS sw Slot.It V12/2 23k 3.27 sw 11:36 White SEBRING
            16 GT Capri RS Turbo Smokeio 77 6 Ortmann Slot.It HRS sw Slot.It V12/2 23k 2.67 sw 12:32 Green/White
            49 GT Cobra Roadster Austin 108 0 PPR SupT Ninco flat inline Fly truck large can 3.0 il 10:30 Blue/White
            59 GT Porsche 911 Attic Racer 95 2 sillicone Fly Racing mpod sprung il Slot.It Boxer 24k 2.89 il 9:26 Red/Blue/White BRUMOS
            68 GT Porsche 911 Kazooracer 92 16 Ortmann Ninco sprung inline Ninco NC6 3.0 il 9:27 Orange JAGERMEISTER
            11 GT Greenwood Corvette Spirit Racer 85 4 PPR SupT Rev-Mon/Spirit flat inline Scalex Sport Plus 23k 3.11 il 9:28 White/Dk Blue
            53 GT Lancia Beta Montecarlo TR 3 96 5 PPR SupT Fly flat sw Slot.It V12/3 21.5k 3.27 sw 11:36 Red/White LANCIA
            7 GT Capri RS Turbo Da Vols 80 0 Fly Race D Fly flat inline Fly Racing EVO2 17k 2.7 il 10:27 Red/White BANZAI
            423 GT Jaguar XK-E Coupe abie 321 84 5 Ninco MRRC flat inline Scalex Sport Plus 23k 2.4 il 10:24 Red/White
            Last edited by Robert Livingston; 12-26-2006, 10:24 AM.

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            • Width in Inches, Between Rear Tire Outer Shoulders

              Race No.-Class-Car-Owner-Width/Tire Shoulders-Tire Type

              16 P Ferrari 612P Spyder Phil Kalbfell 2.43" NSR
              55 P Ferrari 512S Spyder R. Livingston 2.32" Ortmann
              1 P Porsche 908/3 Tony Kuljis 2.23" NSR Oiled
              69 P Porsche 917K Terry Noe 2.37" Slot.It S1
              67 P Porsche 908/2 Wet Coast R 2.27" PPR SupT
              3 P Porsche 936 Dr Vanski 2.31" Ortmann
              9 P Ferrari 330P4 Coupe Pete N95 2.41" NSR
              36 P Porsche 908/3 Reckless Rcr 2.25" Ortmann
              30 P Lola T70 Spyder Gascarnut 1.97" Ortmann
              5 P Ferrari 330 P4 Spyder abie 321 2.48" Slot.It S1
              24 P Porsche 908 Milo Bluetoes 2.32" PPR SupT
              49 P Ferrari 330 P4 Coupe Nick 49 2.18" Ortmann
              54 P Porsche 908 Triggerhappy 2.23" Ortmann
              28 P Porsche 917K Spirit Racer 2.24" PPR SupT
              7 P Chaparral 2D Austin 2.11" Slot.It S1
              64 P Chevron Kazooracer 2.33" Ortmann
              18 P Ferrari 312P Coupe BeeJay 2.34" NSR
              8 P Chevron Da Vols 2.33" Slot.It P3
              6 P Porsche 917K Spyder BigDSonic 2.18" NSR
              83 GT BMW M1 Phil Kalbfell 2.34" NSR
              1 GT Toyota LB Turbo R. Livingston 2.38" Ortmann
              26 GT Lancia Beta Montecarlo Wayne 2.40" Ortmann
              57 GT Corvette L88 JTPrevia 2.46" Ortmann
              48 GT Capri RS Turbo Reckless Rcr 2.38" Ortmann
              34 GT Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Spirit R Club 2.35" PPR SupT
              59 GT Porsche 911 Dave K 2.32" Ortmann
              1 GT Porsche 911 Dr Vanski 2.35" Ortmann
              24 GT Cobra Roadster Gascarnut 2.13" Ortmann
              7A GT Capri RS Turbo Tony Kuljis 2.37" NSR Oiled
              64 GT Ferrari 512 BB LM BeeJay 2.43" NSR
              95 GT Capri RS Turbo Pete N95 2.40" Ortmann
              76 GT Greenwood Corvette Terry Noe 2.32" Ortmann
              16 GT Capri RS Turbo Smokeio 2.43" Ortmann
              49 GT Cobra Roadster Austin 2.03" PPR SupT
              59 GT Porsche 911 Attic Racer 2.41" silicone
              68 GT Porsche 911 Kazooracer 2.37" Ortmann
              11 GT Greenwood Corvette Spirit Racer 2.16" PPR SupT
              53 GT Lancia Beta Montecarlo TR 3 2.36" PPR SupT
              7 GT Capri RS Turbo Da Vols 2.34" Fly Race D
              423 GT Jaguar XK-E Coupe abie 321 1.85" Ninco

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              • Very Interesting reading Robert, just one small point, both my cars, (for what they are worth... ), are running on Ortmans.

                Regards

                Alan

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                • I will update the info in the tech sheet section of the spreadsheet - look for the altered info when the Round 2 results are published.

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