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    This is the magnetic downforce of your cars
































  • #2
    Yiikes, a 10-fold difference across the field!

    Hope there aren't any plastic tracks with metal rails in this series; or routed tracks with magna-braid.......................

    Allan

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    • #3
      The first 2 are plastic,I believe.






      Steve

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      • #4
        still looking for more tracks, finding a lot of track don't want silicone tires


        Yes mine is ScaleXtric Sport track




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        Lebanon Raceway Park; Budslots

        Last edited by Austin; 06-05-2016, 03:25 PM.

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        • #5
          Yep I tested and tuned my car to my track. I never set it on my Magnet Marshall. I have not used that in the three years since I moved to all non-mag racing. Welp I hope it is as good once it get to a routed track .

          Looking forward to hosting my round soon!

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          • #6
            It's a little tough to compete on a level playing field within a class on a plastic track/metal rails when there's almost a 5-fold difference in the magnetic down force of the cars. The 3rd and 4th tracks listed (Audi1 and Manchvegasracer) are routed wood tracks with recessed copper braid.

            The real problem is that there's no way to get even, since a car with more magnetic down force (long can motor) will not be at a disadvantage on a routed wood/copper track, whereas a car will less magnetic down force (S-can) will always be at a disadvantage on a plastic track with metal rails; all other things being equal (which we know they never are........right?).

            Unless, of course, we're allowed to use those new copper magnets......................

            No complaints - just re-setting my expectations for the series.

            You're right, outside of New England and Michigan, there are not a lot of tracks that like to run silicone tires: I found that out when we set up this year's CanAm series. You might want to have a look at the tracks in that series for ideas on where to look for lining up other tracks.

            Allan

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            • #7
              Wow, no wonder the car was so quick 33 grams of down force. I run Scaley Sport as well. I hope it will be competitive on the routed tracks. This has not been the case in the past.

              Arrold

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              • #8
                My GT1 car is a little mag heavy,but the spec long can motors are "mag" motors.
                The Ninco motor is more "mag" heavy than the NSR motor I'm using.
                I recently (first week of May), switched from Sport to wood.
                These were tuned on wood,so hopefully my GT1 car will be decent on the wood tracks.




                Steve

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                • #9
                  We can run a couple races in Michigan at Cloverleaf and Road Canton....

                  Pretty much all we run is silicone....

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                  • #10
                    The modest magnetic downforce from some open can motors certainly will have an impact on tracks with metal rails or Magnabraid. All of the Shoreline Model Raceways tracks are now routed, but one of them has Magnabraid. Some years ago we were hosting a proxy race on a copper taped wood track and early on the track computer packed it in. Fortunately we had another track right next door, but that one was Scalextric Sport at the time. We found that the cars with open motors were much more competitive on that track.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Rich. Well, I guess we're where we are with respect to magnetic downforce and this series.

                      GT-2 is even, with 3-4g downforce across the field

                      GT-1 has about a 2-fold spread, with 12-24g downforce

                      P has about a 5-fold spread, with 9-49g downforce

                      If you're looking for additional tracks, then I would suggest that you try to prioritize routed wood/copper over plastic/ferrous metal, just to minimize the potential for a magnetic advantage. If you can't then take what you can get, because even with the two tracks that Paul mentioned, we still need more tracks

                      I would check in with 34ever1 (Ray) and/or Rich (RichD) to see about a couple of tracks in Connecticut (Wayne's World and Lee Marquardt Speedway) and also with mether05 (Bob) to see about his Cornerstone track in MA. That would add 3 more and bring you to 9 total. One to three more should get you to where you want to be at 10-12 tracks for the series.

                      Allan
                      Last edited by Audi1; 06-07-2016, 03:50 AM.

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                      • #12
                        I will speak to the owners of both tracks at our weekly race tomorrow night. I believe that we have a couple of DaVols Cup races scheduled for June.



                        https://www.facebook.com/ShorelineModelRaceways/

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                        • #13
                          Thanks, Rich. It would be a big help!

                          Allan

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                          • #14
                            I am sure I can get the Herman P Finkelmeyer speedway to join here in Cincinnati. It is a routed track that the Cincy Slots use. Let check with Butch. We can run it right after my round as he lives 30min from me.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Audi1 View Post
                              It's a little tough to compete on a level playing field within a class on a plastic track/metal rails when there's almost a 5-fold difference in the magnetic down force of the cars. The 3rd and 4th tracks listed (Audi1 and Manchvegasracer) are routed wood tracks with recessed copper braid.

                              The real problem is that there's no way to get even, since a car with more magnetic down force (long can motor) will not be at a disadvantage on a routed wood/copper track, whereas a car will less magnetic down force (S-can) will always be at a disadvantage on a plastic track with metal rails; all other things being equal (which we know they never are........right?).

                              Unless, of course, we're allowed to use those new copper magnets......................

                              No complaints - just re-setting my expectations for the series.


                              Allan
                              Oh no the Bear got poked!!! I just lost another .5 seconds a lap when Allan figures this out. having fun though

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