SPR 2014 Race Rules & Regulations

[retro racer 44]

Schedule

Hi Chas:

I believe the schedule as you posted above is correct, unless the New England boys throw in another round. That means 6 rounds down, 5 to go. Anyone for nail biting? Well, maybe after the GTA rounds, eh?

[charlesx]

Hi all.

Looking forward to last two rounds in Canada and then last three in USA. Art's then Drew's places next I think.

This will be the second time I have run on your track Art. The first being Round 6 of VRAA recently.

Great series so far and already thinking about cars for next year. Love the variety of tracks and all the photos. Makes you feel really part of action even if half a world away.

Has also been a great learning experience.

Regards

Chas Le Breton, New Zealand

[VTECFOUR]

Hi Art,

Yes, please make repairs to facilitate the racing on your and Drew's beautiful tracks.

Looking forward to the outcomes.

Dan

[Phil Kalbfell]

Ready for another found already, this series will be completed while others only have completed two or three rounds! Great series,well done.

[DArt]

Some Good Discussion - A Few Things...

Gents,

Some great discourse within this thread. The box arrived by snow plane (see Ice Pilots) for the next few rounds here in the GTA and I've looked over all of the cars. The collection looks really great. Well Done Boys! There are some issues with cars that I would like to address and so I suppose what I am really asking is to find out how much I can do as an impartial host to make sure that each car runs as intended. I believe I may have answered my own question 'to make sure that each car runs as intended'... so pending any objections I will set aside an afternoon to do such... I'll post everything I've done within the new thread I'll start for the first race in the GTA... I'm planning to run the Ring race this Wednesday evening to kick things off (but keep this quiet)...

Remember to have fun - a hobby is supposed to be fun...

...Cheers!

Art

[charlesx]

Hi

Would be interesting to know what the final race schedule is (have put COMPLETED beside rounds already run).

Earlier post says

5. Race track venues (pending):
- Dan’s Apartment 1 or 2 (BC, Canada) COMPLETED Round 4
- Luf's Targa Burnaby (BC, Canada) COMPLETED Round 2
- Luf's Burnaby Hillclimb (BC, Canada) COMPLETED Round 1
- Don’s Attic (BC, Canada) COMPLETED Round 6
- Perry’s Canyon (BC, Canada) COMPLETED Round 5
- Doug’s Laguna Douga (BC, Canada, pending vacation) COMPLETED Round 3
- Art’s Ring (Ontario, Canada) COMPLETED Round 7
- Drew’s Spa-Lyons (Ontario, Canada) COMPLETED Round 8
- Bob’s Cornerstone (Massachusetts, USA)
- Bob’s Vernon L (Connecticut, USA)
- Jeremy’s Hazard (Connecticut, USA)

but I do not believe we have ever been advised of final list. Would be great to know.

Regards Chas Le Breton (Charlesx)

[charlesx]

Spr build

Thanks JT.

I do not think the Aussy V8's are anything like NASCAR (or at least NASCAR as I know it) as they race on road circuits rather than ovals. They are certainly both good to watch however.

Ta also for clarification on tire size for HP. Promise I will not produce a tractor.

No problem with rules thread. If older ones could be closed off it might do away with problem. Not sure if this can be done with this forum.

Am going to start my own build thread as suggested by Shortland17.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[JT Previa]

Chas,

Glad you can easily watch the Bathurst 1000 - does that NASCAR export still return to crash other drivers on the twisty bits?!

We didn't put a max dia on the HP tires because 1) our plan was to minimize rules and 2) the HP class limit on body modifications self-limits tire diameter. hopefully, you don't send us a tractor!

We do have two rules threads, so I can understand potential confusion, but this year's is preceded by 2014 in the title. Many of the proxies leave their past threads up, and merging would be more confusing in my opinion.

JT

[charlesx]

Hi again JT.

Sorry to be a pest again but am I right there is no max. tire size for Sprite HP.

Max. for SPX is 0.734".

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[charlesx]

SRP Proxy motors

Thanks for that JT.

Have started sorting out rest of parts and sizes required for HP (mainly wheels and tires). Man those cars are small and the tires narrow.

Have been keeping an eye on liveries of cars being built. Thinking Yellow and green or vice versa may be different but perhaps I need to look at last years event photos.

Re motors attach a photo of two such motors I have just sourced from NZ supplier via new shipment from Germany.

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu23/charleslb/MotorsSPR_zps76b8b8c2.jpg

1. The "slim can" has always been called the SRP1090 Power 16 and is stated as producing 16000rpm @12v.

2. The old SRP1092 "S" can however is now stamped with RD-Power 16 by SRP so one can understand the confusion. I am not aware whether or how it is rated by manufacturer. According to "Dart Hobbies" however the latter is rated at higher RPM and considerably great torque than the SRP1090..

Another suggestion from "Helpful Harry" here - there are currently two "Rules and regulations" threads. This can be very confusing. Would it be possible for these to be combined.

Busy here watching the "Bathurst 1000 V8 enduro" which you may have heard of in the USA.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[JT Previa]

Chas,

Body and tires are both subject to car width regulations. The +- was because some of the different manufacturers bodies were, well, different.

As to the motors, I will concur with your suggestion based on the contents of this thread and have clarified the regulations accordingly (SRP is now 1090).




JT

[charlesx]

Hi JT.

Acknowledge 0.25 is total tire/tread width including any tire bulge. Slab sided tires are therefore allowed. Please advise if this is wrong.

Is 1.65" (HP) and 2.0" (SPX) total width as well as body width. That is wheels/tires must be within same? Note 1.65 for HP is +- so some tolerance is allowed but none in SPX?

Dimensions convert as follows:

Length 4.13" = 103.25mm
Width HP 1.65 = 41.25mm
Width SPX 2.0 = 50.8mm
Wheels diameter HP 0.475" = 11.85mm
Tire diameter SPX 0.734 = 18.35mm
Wheelbase - not supplied but I make about 63mm - is there an official measure?

Finally I note Phil K's question re motors. I note RD Power 16 is S can not FF050. Used to be called SRP1092 - this does not sound right as much more powerful motor than rest.

Eligible SRP motor I would have thought should be SRP1090.

Look forward to your advice and clarification so I can get on with the building of my car.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

PS. I have just noticed that wheelsbase question answered in another thread. Think motor one however still needs attention.

[JT Previa]

CharlesX,

Retro is spot on (and timely - are all Canadians retired? ) with his advice regarding rules: 1.) 25" max HP tread and 2.) that SPX cars don't need to have 1:1 prototypes, but are encouraged to be proto-typical, believable models. After all, we want the group photos to look great, without any "how did that car get in there" moments!

Thanks for your enthusiasm and make sure you fit those bulges in the maximum overall width!

JT

[charlesx]

Thanks very much Retro Racer 44. Appreciate encouragement.

Yes enjoying build threads. Good to see some builders getting on job early.

Certainly plenty of room for inspiration there.

Regards

Chas Le Breton

[retro racer 44]

Hi Chas, Welcome to SPR. I'm not one of the Grand Poobahs, but I helped make the rules.

Munter's bodies are the norm for this proxy. Some people use Airfix kit bodies which have the same dimensions. There are others around also. I don't expect you will have a problem as long as you follow the rule dimensions.

My HP car last year had 0.25 tread, and did not include sidewall bulge, and was fine. True scale wheels for a stock Sprite would be less than .15 and would get hung up in the slot.

While most of the HP cars had a stock appearance, only some of them were based on an actual prototype. The SPX cars were much wilder and only had to be Sprite based, and still within the rules.

Dan or JT, correct me if I am wrong, but that is how I see it. Last year's car collection thread and this year's build thread will also give you some guidance.

Have fun building. I hope you have a magnifying glass.